Politics Plus

Lynn has now won her sixth Big Mouth Award.  For over a year she has been our top commentator, and is also one of only two people, other than myself, that I have authorized to post articles here.  Lynn is a denizen of Care2, and is still a Canadian, unfortunately for the US.  I’ve said this before, but it still bears repeating.  If 10% of US citizens had half the knowledge of and insight into US politics that this Canadian gal regularly displays, our country would be far better off.  Congrats Lynn!  She is a treasure, whose contribution to this site cannot be overstated.  Please join me in giving her even more of the kudos she so richly deserves.

Here are the results of our House Immigration Zimmerman Verdict Poll.  Politics Polls are not scientific, because those who respond are not balances according to demographic categories, and therefore, we do not demographically reflect the US population.  Nevertheless, our polls are often accurate.

And here are your comments:

Posted by Phil P  July 24, 2013 at 7:34 pm.  

 

The defense put Trayvon on trial from the beginning and the prosecution never countered or presented Trayvon as a typical 17 yr old black kid nor alternative scenarios of the shooting that the jury could consider as Manslaughter.

 

Posted by Patty  July 20, 2013 at 5:36 am.  

 

It was a bit of everything. I knew it wouldn’t happen but I wished with all my heart that Zimmerman would have taken the stand. The jurors would have seen his hatred on display then.

 

Posted by Barbara K in reply to Patty  July 21, 2013 at 2:08 pm.  

 

Am I the only one who noticed how they wouldn’t let Zimmerman speak so the the jury could not hear his higher pitched voice?

 

Posted by Patty in reply to Barbara K  July 22, 2013 at 4:10 am.  

 

Barbara K, I had heard that mentioned on some news show at one time during speculation of the trial. I think it was before they even picked the jurors. One of their "expert lawyers" said something to the effect that they shouldn’t let him testify because of his high pitched voice. I thought that was the last of their worries.

Posted by Rixar13  July 19, 2013 at 3:49 pm.  

 

AG Eric Holder said it best. The stand your ground law was for a problem that did not exist…

 

 

Posted by John Dasef  July 17, 2013 at 10:12 am.  

 

Instructions to the jury were heavily slanted in Zimmerman’s favor.

 

Posted by Fred Lemon  July 17, 2013 at 6:05 am.  

 

I also think it was a bit of all the things mentioned except nothing. I just ask what made it Zimmerman’s ground to stand on rather than Martin’s?

 

 

Posted by Angelica in reply to Fred Lemon  

 

That was my question, too. Why did the prosecution ignore that? They should have raised hell and they didn’t.

 

Posted by Archie  July 16, 2013 at 9:09 pm.  

 

So when Mr Zimmerman moseys on down the street with shopping bag,is followed in the dark by someone who hollers"Hey you stop there!" You are of middle Eastern appearance, you are a terrorist! I,ll have to shoot you! Would the good folks of this jury say right ON!?

 

 

Posted by dave c  July 16, 2013 at 12:54 pm.  

 

a little bit of each?!

 

Posted by SoINeedAName in reply to dave c  July 16, 2013 at 3:04 pm.  

 

Most definitely, a little bit of each.

 

Posted by Angelica  July 16, 2013 at 6:33 am.  

 

I heard juror @37B on TV last night. The woman has an IQ about 4 points higher than a head of iceberg lettuce. She "liked what was in Zimmerman’s heart." I almost fell out of my chair. It was clear that she never saw the victim as human. I say she’s beyond ignorant because she thought the most compelling testimony OF THE WHOLE TRIAL was the doctor who talked about death screams in Nam.

 

 

Posted by Vanessa Dawne in reply to Angelica  July 19, 2013 at 11:10 pm.  

 

You’ve hit the nail on the head, Angelica! 37B was 1 of 6 making the decision & she was also part of the group who changed the minds of 2 or more of the 6 who were leaning towards ‘guilty’ — an ignorant bully. Is that really representative of a jury of Trayvon’s peers?

Was there any intelligence in that room?

 

 

Posted by Angelica in reply to Vanessa Dawne  July 20, 2013 at 1:24 pm.  From 70.127.233.x   

 

After listening to her make outrageous claims that she "knew what was in Z’s heart," I can only conclude that she was part of the same dumber than dirt group that supports "Stand Your Ground" and all the racial inequality that goes with it.

 

Posted by Lynn Squance  July 16, 2013 at 1:11 am.  

 

I think it was no one thing. A jury made up of 5 white women and one Hispanic woman in my view is not racially balanced. For that matter, where is the token male? As I understand, the judged ruled that there could be no mention of race, yet in some of Zimmerman’s comments prior to the trial, racial profiling was done.

I hope the DOJ carries forth with an investigation and hate crime charges.

 

Posted by Angelica in reply to Lynn Squance  July 20, 2013 at 1:31 pm.  

 

Clearly, there was racial profiling. Those 40-something phone calls of his to the police prove it.

I voted for all of the top four choices.  There was clearly bigotry on the jury.  37B proved that beyond a reasonable doubt.  The prosecution was weak.  They missed many opportunities to demonstrate premeditated malice.  The defense was skillful.  All those Republican donations bought great lawyers.  The only choice I made, about which I have doubts is that the judge was biased.  I thought that he should have instructed the jury that Martin had more right to stand his ground than Zimmerman, as he was the one being pursued.  I figured the judge thought that stand your ground only applies to the white in a mixed race confrontation.  On the other hand, since the Republicans are the Party of Death, it may be that stand your ground only applies to the armed survivor.  I should have included another choice for Florida Law.

Here are the results of our Republican Alienation Poll.

And here are you comments.

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Posted by Mary  23 hours ago.  

 

All of the above. the republicans dislikes everyone, they are doing their best to get the Hispanic vote by trying to get a decent immigration bill; but they aren’t doing a good job with the women voters (except the idiot submissive fools who can’t think for themselves); hell they forgot about the Asian voters…can go on and on

 

Posted by Patty  June 28, 2013 at 11:24 am. 

 

Definitely women. We make up more than half the population and are included in the other groups as well.

 

Posted by SoINeedAName  June 27, 2013 at 7:28 pm. 

 

WOMEN

No "Ifs", "Ands" or "Buts"

And WRT that RethugliKKKan "Outreach" program:

Please proceed, GOP.

 

Posted by John Dasef  June 27, 2013 at 12:37 am. 

 

All of the above

 

Posted by Anna U  June 26, 2013 at 8:16 am. 

 

Of course I would say all of the above aswell, but still think: Muslims.

 

Posted by Dandelion  June 25, 2013 at 10:17 am. 

 

I know Sanity isn’t the one that is most obvious, because you’d have to also be insane to have voted for the lot that is elected. As they say, birds of a feather flock together so they most likely don’t see how insane their representatives are. But this whole thing has become insane. I feel like I’ve moved and gone into the Twilight Zone. Damn, is there a quicker way out of here?

 

Posted by Kathy B.  June 25, 2013 at 8:59 am. 

 

I picked other because they are all offensive.

 

Posted by Fred Lemon  June 24, 2013 at 5:26 am. 

 

All of the above!

 

Posted by Ann K  June 23, 2013 at 1:45 pm. 

 

"Other" for gun background checks.

 

Posted by John Dasef  June 22, 2013 at 6:52 pm. 

 

All of the above.

 

Posted by Lynn Squance  June 22, 2013 at 1:48 am.

 

I clicked ‘voting’ because voting is universal and has elements of all the other named groups. But it was a toss up between ‘women’ who make up 51% of the US population and ‘voting’.

 

Now, if by ‘sanity’ you are referring to insaniTea, that is in all the Republican/Teabagger wars. And of course there is the war on Mr Obama, war on the poor, and their incessant war on affordable healthcare. The Republican/Teabaggers are just a bunch of warmongering fools!

 

Posted by Angelica  June 21, 2013 at 5:24 pm.

 

Women let them know who the boss is in Texas. I think women are really angry and fed up with these clowns.

 

Posted by Jim Phillips  June 21, 2013 at 10:41 am. 

 

All of them!

 

Posted by Marva  June 20, 2013 at 2:19 pm. 

 

 

Women are in every one of the other groups, so make up a plurality no matter what.

 

I would not discount the Seniors, however. AARP is pretty activist.

I voted for Republican War on Voting, knowing it would not be the most popular, and I’m pleasantly surprised to see it come in second.  As I see it, more people should be alienated by Republicans trying to disenfranchise legal voters, because if the can control who can vote and who can’t, The USA will be no more.

A new poll is up.  Don’t forget to vote!