Trying to see if I can insert a slideshow from the new CK plugin.
Created it (I think) – not sure how to add it.
I, for one, have been concerned that Drumpfenfarten, Fuhrer of the Republican Rectum-Rage Reich, has been refusing foreign intelligence briefings, claiming to get information from other sources (Kremlin, perhaps?). He just tanked our China relations so badly, that without major damage control, we may find ourselves back in a cold war with China.
President-elect Donald J. Trump spoke by telephone with Taiwan’s president on Friday, a striking break with nearly four decades of diplomatic practice that could precipitate a major rift with China even before Mr. Trump takes office.
Mr. Trump’s office said he had spoken with the Taiwanese president, Tsai Ing-wen, “who offered her congratulations.” He is believed to be the first president or president-elect who has spoken to a Taiwanese leader since at least 1979, when the United States severed diplomatic ties with Taiwan as part of its recognition of the People’s Republic of China.
In the statement, Mr. Trump’s office said the two leaders had noted “the close economic, political, and security ties” between Taiwan and the United States. Mr. Trump, it said, “also congratulated President Tsai on becoming President of Taiwan earlier this year.”
Mr. Trump’s motives in taking the call, which lasted more than 10 minutes, were not clear. In a Twitter message late Friday, he said [Twit Tweet delinked] Ms. Tsai “CALLED ME.”… [emphasis added]
From <NY Times>
Lets dispense with the idiotic "called me" excuse. First, if I called the Fuhrer, it wouldn’t pick up the phone. The call would go to a low level aide, who would want to know who I was and what I wanted. If that aide thought it worthwhile, I’d be passed to a mid-level aide, who would grill me for much more detailed information. If i passed that test, I’d be passed to a high level aide for the final vetting of my call. If I passed, we would find a time that fit both the Fuhrer’s and my schedules, and I’d be given a special number to call at that time. I would call the Fuhrer at the appointed time, and only then would it answer the phone. Second, given the long-term absence of US formal relations with Taiwan, Ms. Tsai would have no reason to call, unless she had reason to believe it would be well received. In short, the "CALLED ME" claim is a Republican Lie. That call was prearranged!
Rachel Maddow covered the incident in much more detail and discussed it with Sen. Chris Murphy (D-CT).
Did the Fuhrer understand the impact of what it was doing? There is no way to tell. Fuhrer Drumpfenfarten is certainly devious enough to return us to a cold war footing with China intentionally. However, the Fuhrer is also stupid enough to have had no idea what he was doing.
I’m quite pleased that the start of month rush is past. I think I can safely say that the summer heat waves are also over, at least until February, and I need to adjust my thermostat, something that requires a long, difficult reach, even with George on. The low is forecast at 25° F on Tuesday night. I have no appointments scheduled next week, so I’m looking forward to a restful time.
Jig Zone Puzzle:
Today’s took me 4:10 (average 6:02). To do it, click here. How did you do?
Short Takes:
From The New Yorker: A once-prominent political career came to a shocking end on Friday as New Jersey Governor Chris Christie was arrested for keying the limo of President-elect Donald J. Trump.
The incident, which rocked political circles in Trenton and Washington, happened in full view of the midtown-Manhattan crowds outside of Trump Tower, where the vandalized limo had been parked.
“Suddenly, this guy broke through security, whipped out his keys, and made a gigantic gash along the side of the limo,” said Harland Dorrinson, a tourist from Missouri who witnessed the incident. “Police started wrestling him to the ground, and I was, like, ‘Holy crap, that’s Chris Christie.’ ”
Fellow-Republicans reacted to Christie’s arrest with sadness and sympathy. “This whole transition period has been tough on a lot of folks,” former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney said.
Sorry Andy! You can’t fool us into believing that PIGnocchio has the cojones to do such a gutsy thing.
From Daily Kos:
Trump knows very well about voter fraud. His people and the party he represents work diligently on suppressing the vote, while also engaging in some voter fraud themselves. Case in point: Brandon Michael Hall. The 27-year-old Trump supporter was convicted yesterday on 10 counts of election law fraud.
The 27-year-old Grand Haven resident, author of the West Michigan Politics blog and self-admitted political junkie, said the verdict wasn’t a surprise. Hall said that he had resigned himself to that possibility after the Michigan Supreme Court, during this past summer, determined his case should be tried as a felony.
In 2012, Hall forged signatures on a bunch of petitions in the hopes of placing a judicial candidate—Chris Houghtaling—on the ballot for Ottawa County District Court judge. Hall was done in when his cohort in the fraud Zachary Savage was granted immunity and agreed to spill the beans in court. Hall has a history of being a low-level corrupt little individual.
Hall had previous dealings with the law when he was convicted in 2010 for stealing from a school fundraiser while he was a member of the Grand Haven school board. He served two years of probation and performed 60 hours of community service.
When it comes to election fraud, Republicans are not only doing all the complaining about it, but also, committing all the fraud.
From YouTube (MSNBC Channel): Donald Trump Voter Lost Her Home, Blames Trump’s Pick For Treasury Secretary
I’m sorry she lost her home, but what a fool she is, just like everyone who believes the Fuhrer will help poor and middle class Americans!
From YouTube (MSNBC Channel): Bernie Sanders On Donald Trump’s Filthy Rich Cabinet
As always, Bernie hit the nail on the head.
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This week I have cut the stories down; there are more which seem to call for the efforts of the Greek Furies (Erinyes) to come and deal with them, but I can't feature all of them, even all of them which are underreported. As a reminder, though no one really knows how many there were supposed to be, the three names we have are Alecto, Megaera, and Tisiphone. These roughly translate as "unceasing," "grudging," and "vengeful destruction."
I would like to send Tisiphone after a guy (the witnesses' description is of a guy) in Adams County, Colorado. Unfortunately I don't know his name. But I know he sloshed accelerant onto a homeless man, set him on fire, stabbed him several times (which accidentally put the fire out), but made up for that by dumping a burning trash can over him. The victim sustained burns over 60% of his body. You can help light a fire (pun intended) under local authorities to identify the suspect by signing this Force Change petition, where you can also read more details about what little is known. There is a description of the attacker and how to give information, in case you have any, in The Denver Post.
Then I need to throw in a quick follow-up before moving on to new stuff. The veteran who had his free Veterans Day meal yanked away from him (it was in #51)? He is now receiving death threats. Apparently because Chili's fired the manager there, and some people didn't like that. Another one for Tisiphone, who is mighty busy this week.
OK, on to new stuff. By "new," of course, I mean not yet reported here. This incident happened on Black Friday – well, that's almost within the last week – in San Antonio, TX.
Isidro Zarate dropped his wife off at WalMart to do some shopping. While leaving the parking lot, he saw a man who had grabbed a woman by the hair (head hair, all you Trump-gutter minds). He stopped the car within shouting distance and told the man to "get your hands off her." Teles Mandan Juarez did do that – he needed his hands to pick up his handgun and shoot Zarate, and, incidentally, a bystander in the parking lot, outside any of the cars. Zarate was hit in the neck, and died. Another woman in his car was injured by flying debris ("shrapnel.") Yet another case for Tisiphone. You will need reinforcements, my dear.
At least Juarez has been arrested and charged, and the current charges are expected to increase. Not that that is of any concrete assistance to Zarate's widow and four children (a gofundme page has been set up though.)
A couple of weeks earlier, on November 12, in El Sobrante, CA, a "census-designated place" in the east bay area across from San Francisco and near Richmond, a gifted 28-year-old musician named William
Sims went to a Pool Hall where he often hung out. In the bar, he "encountered three men … who decided to rob, beat, and then shoot him to death, all because he was black." They left his body lying in the street.
At least they have one of the three in custody and identitles, including photos, on the other two. I won't be showing their photos, because, frankly, they are b**t-ugly. Sims, who played guitar, saxophone, violin and piano, and also sang, was much better looking. He was also quiet, unassuming, humorous, and always doing his best to befriend others. And this incident could go to Tisiphone too, but Megaera, help her out. She is overwhelmed.
And then there was the Mississippi woman who was knocked unconscious in a Kroger supermarket aisle by a male shopper whom she asked if he knew how to bake a pie. Yes, you read that right. First he walked away, screaming
expletives, then he returned, shoved two other women there into the shelves, and punched Nia Jones, his questioner, three times in the face and once in the chest, leaving her unconscious. No employee or other shopper came to her defense or assistance, which, while in some ways not unreasonable, is still sad.
You may be wondering, why, if this happened in Mississippi, it's the Memphis, TN TV station which has the video. Well, Southaven, MS, is so close to the state line with Tennessee that it is considered a suburb of Memphis. That has to be rough. Megaera, please help the authorities identify the assailant from the surveillance video, preferably before he punches anyone else.
Finally – well, finally for this week, I trust no one thinks this stuff is going to stop – we go to North Carolina for the teacher who choked a five-year-old Muslim student. Yes. I said CHOKED. I also said FIVE YEARS OLD. Another teacher had to physically pull her off of the lad before she snapped his spine.
The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) is, naturally, calling for an investigation here. The allegations, announced to the public just before Thanksgiving:
“During the first two months of the school year, [the Muslim student] was subjected to relentless bullying and harassment not only by his classmates, but by [the teacher]. For example, she would routinely single out [the student] from his classmates and require him to carry a heavy backpack throughout the day. The backpack contained a large textbook and headphones, which caused [the student] to develop significant back pain. . .[The teacher] would also treat [the student] harshly and reportedly called him ‘bad Muslim boy’ on multiple occasions. . .
“On November 16, 2016, [the teacher] reportedly approached [the student]. . .grabbed him by the neck and began choking him. [Another teacher] then separated the two and began consoling [the student] who was crying and extremely shaken.”
Tisiphone, this is definitely yours. Maybe Alecto can do some reconnaissance for you, maybe getting the teacher off her meds – or on to some. All I can manage to do is shake my head and say, "Poor child! Poor, poor child!"
And weep.
The Furies and I will be back.
Cross posted to Care2 at http://www.care2.com/news/member/101612212/4024924
Last month, all categories were up from October. I attribute our continuing slowness to my health issues and the shock of disbelief that has descended on our poor nation.
Here is our latest summary:

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01 Nov 2016 – 00:01 |
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30 Nov 2016 – 23:58 |
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Pages |
Hits |
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Viewed traffic * |
9,276
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27,473 (2.96 visits/visitor) |
81,817 (2.97 Pages/Visit) |
276,690 (10.07 Hits/Visit) |
6.78 GB (258.67 KB/Visit) |
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Not viewed traffic * |
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350,170 |
405,161 |
7.30 GB |
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Month Nov 2015 |
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01 Nov 2015 – 00:01 |
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30 Nov 2015 – 23:59 |
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11,064
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34,904 (3.15 visits/visitor) |
143,087 (4.09 Pages/Visit) |
377,069 (10.8 Hits/Visit) |
5.80 GB (174.27 KB/Visit) |
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393,309 |
453,597 |
7.23 GB |
Year over year, 2016 is considerably lower in every category. Here is our latest demographic data from Quantcast:

They miss a ton of raw data, but among those they can identify they are a valuable source of information. We are still mostly older, well educated, Democrats, and politically active, anmd poor to middle class. We are about 40% male and 60% female.
Here is our ClustrMap for 2016 YTD.

ClustrMap misses a lot of visits, because many visits can’t be easily traced to a location. They have changed their format. When you click the map in the left column, it shows the current month only, but they changed their interface to allow me to pull up the YTD map, and they just made several different formats available, including one in Russian for Republicans.
Here are our top five articles:
Jane Smiley: Capitalist Pigs 1/17/2010 769
Unquestioning Support for Cops 7/28/2015 510
Friday Fun – Joe Biden Pranks: Time for Some Chuckles 11/16/2016 388
Michael Moore’s Five Point Plan 11/11/2016 256
Chomsky on Trump’s Election 11/26/2016
The count represents only the people who followed an external link to that specific article. Three were from November. Congrats to Nameless, who not only made the list, but also, had November’s top article.
Here are our top non-blog/news referrers (100 referral minimum):
Care2 2,694
Google 2,280
Stumbleupon 256
Google (Images) 100
Care2 is up by over 400, Google is up by over 350, Stumbleupon is up 60, Google (Images) made the list.
Here are our top blog/news referrers:
http://infidel753.blogspot.com/
http://www.dailykos.com/
http://bildungblog.blogspot.com/
http://oakcreekforum.blogspot.com/
http://hamsandwich66.blogspot.com/
https://blogofthebeardedone.wordpress.com/
https://ethicsalarms.com/
https://blogs.commons.georgetown.edu/
http://progressiveerupts.blogspot.com/
http://harpers.org/
http://thehill.com/
http://www.laborers860.com/
http://okjimmseggrollemporium.blogspot.com/
http://www.rose-rosetree.com/
We had 14 sites with 2 or more referrals, up 10 from October. Putting blogs’ links here increases the ratings of their sites, so this “linkey love” is our thank you for their support. I’m most pleased with the stat and that some of the sites that linked to us are household names.
We have 237,724 links on other websites, down over 100,000 from October. I expect that to decrease, because thousands of our links are over five years old, dating back to a time, when we consistently averaged over a million hits a month. I used to have the time and energy for 7-8 articles per day. Major sites (like Care2), where I used to post links are no longer available, I’ve stopped posting links at other major sites, and I no longer visit 20 – 30 blogs per day, because I just can’t do everything I used to do. However, as quantity has gone down, I hope quality has gone up.
As of Midnight on December 1, we have 7,011 articles and 84,621 comments.
Congrats to Pat A. She won a Big Mouth Award in November, for the 84,000th comment.
I recommend using your own avatar. Go to Gravatar. Sign up using the email address you use to post comments here and upload the image you want to use as your avatar. Whenever you comment under that email address here or on any WordPress blog (several others too), that image will become your avatar.
Your Administrators are Lynn Squance, aka Sasquatch or Squatch, SoINeedAName, aka Nameless, and I, aka TomCat, the Founder. Your Editors are Joanne Dixon, aka JD the Erynator and Lona Goudswaard, aka Lona the Napster. I promoted them from Author in August to give them the ability to add graphics to comments and the ability to correct my innumerable typos.
This is our policy on links. We do not embed links to extreme Republican websites, like Faux Noise, Breitfart or World Nut Daily. However I leave notes in square brackets when I delete such links, (example: [faux noise delinked]) so readers, who wish to follow them can click through to the source article. I also remove topical links. Finally, I blank the target on all links, so they open in a new tab or window.
Given our expanded talent, I expect to continue our overall upward trend, although my medical problems are still interfering with my writing. One way you can help is to share our articles, not only with your family and friends, but also, on other sites, linking back to the article here. The more exposure we get, the better we shall do at fulfilling our stated purpose, “Overcoming Right Wing Insanity One Day at a Time!”
Thank you for all that you do, here and elsewhere. You are why we succeed! You atr America’s only hope.
Remember, last month I warned you that every state is a swing state. You passed it on, but far too few heeded our warning. As more votes have come in, we now know that, if Jill Stein voters in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania had only voted responsibly, Hilary Clinton would be President elect today. Let’s work to prevent this from happening in 2020, if our nation survives.
Once again it’s TGIF day, and I’m ready for a restful weekend. My shoulder is improving slightly, but I did have to cancel my appointment yesterday with Courtney, my physical terrorist. There is no way I could have stood up to her loving abuse. I hope you enjoy one of your last weekends living in a democratic republic.
Jig Zone Puzzle:
Today’s took me 3:21 (average 5:08). To do it, click here. How did you do?
Short Takes:
From Exposed by CMD: Theocracy: She Has Pushed for Vouchers and More to Get Tax Money to Support Christian Schools
DeVos has approached the issue of education as a religious issue for her personally and as an area which she wants to change the law to reflect her personal views. A long-time partisan activist, she got involved in education “reform” in the early 1990s, around the time that her husband ran for a seat on the Michigan state Board of Education.
After he stepped down from that post, in 1993 she and her husband took on the “Education Freedom Fund,” which, she has said, “I would define as ultimately Christian in its nature because in excess of 90% of the parents who receive these scholarships choose Christian schools to go to.” EFF provides private funding for private school tuition, and is supported with significant donations from the DeVos family.
Why did she and here husband choose to get involved in the political battles over public education even though they did not send their kids to public schools and they financially support private Christian schools?
In a joint interview for “The Gathering,” a group focused on advancing Christian ideology through philanthropy, she and her husband said they decided to focus on reforming public education and funding for private education because the “Lord led us there” and “God led us.”
At that meeting, they were asked if it would not have been simpler to fund Christian schools directly rather than fund political efforts like vouchers to get more tax dollars to fund Christian schools, and she replied: “There are not enough philanthropic dollars in America to fund what is currently the need in education versus what is spent every year on education in this country… So, our desire is to confront the culture in ways that will continue to advance God’s Kingdom,” adding that they want “to impact our culture [in ways] that may have great Kingdom gain in the long-run by changing the way we approach things.”
Her husband added: “We are working …. to allow for our Christian worldview, which for us comes from a Calvinist tradition, and to provide for a more expanded opportunity someday for all parents to be able to educate their children in a school that reflects their world view and not each day sending their child to a school that may be reflecting a world view that may be quite antithetical to the worldview they hold in their families.”
When asked if they are “against public education,” they have denied that charge while trying to reframe the conversation.
Betsy DeVos responded: “No, we are for good education and for having every child have an opportunity for a good education. And having grown up in families that are in the business world, we both believe that competition and choices make everyone better, and that ultimately if the system that prevails in the United States today had more competition, if there were other choices for people to make freely that all of the schools would become better as a result and that excellence would be sought in every setting. So we are very strong proponents of fundamentally changing the way we approach education … because there are hundreds of thousands and millions of children that are forced to go every day to a school that is not meeting their needs and it’s not right.”
Her husband added that they are for “public education” but that’s not the same as “public schools.” He said public funding for education of all kinds is a “laudable concept” that should not be forced to operate through “government-run schools.”
He also stated: “In my opinion, the Church has sadly retrenched from its central role in our community, to where now as we look at many communities in our country the church which ought to be in our view far more central to the life in our community has been displaced by the public school as the center for activity the center for what goes on the community….”
He added, “it is certainly our hope that churches would continue no matter what the environment whether there is government funding someday through vouchers or tax credits or some other mechanism…that more and more churches will get more and more active and engaged in education. We just can think of no better way to rebuild our families and our communities than to have that circle of church, school, and family much more tightly focused and being built on a consistent world view.”
Betsy DeVos did not disagree with this statement of their shared goals and responded: “If I can just add to that very quickly, I think for many years the church in general has felt that it is important for the children of the congregation to be in the schools to make a difference but in fact I think what has happened in many cases for the last couple of decades is that the schools have impacted the kids more than the kids have impacted the schools. The young children need to have a pretty solid foundation to be able to combat the kind of influences that they are presented with on a daily basis.”
(All quotes above are transcribed from their hour-long interview for “The Gathering,” available here.)
This is just one of five things listed that you need to know about Barf Bag Betsy DeVos, the fascist sycophant Fuhrer Drumpfenfarten has tasked with destroying Public Education in America. Click through for the other four.
From ABC: President-elect Donald Trump announced Thursday night that he will "appoint" retired Marine Gen. James "Mad Dog" Mattis to be his secretary of defense. The two met in Bedminster, New Jersey, in November for an hour, after which Trump called Mattis the “real deal.”
Under the Appointments Clause of the U.S. Constitution, certain federal positions appointed by the president — including secretary of defense -– require confirmation of the U.S. Senate.
Mattis most recently served as the head of U.S. Central Command. A lifelong bachelor, he is known as the “warrior monk” for his knowledge of ancient and military history.
The four-star general is revered by many for his leadership and also known for his blunt words…
"Actually it’s quite fun to fight them, you know. It’s a hell of a hoot. It’s fun to shoot some people.”
That quote tells us why the Fuhrer, aka the Rectum of Rage, likes Mad Dog. However, he is forbidden by law to serve as Defense Secretary, until he has been separated from military service for seven years.
From TPM: Some Senate Democrats were harshly critical of Donald Trump’s pick for Treasury secretary, the latest in a line of financial elites tapped for his cabinet who they say betrays the President-elect’s promise to “drain the swamp” of insiders.
Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) called Steve Mnuchin “the Forrest Gump of the financial crisis” in a statement Tuesday, referencing Munchin’s two-decade-long tenure at Goldman Sachs, according to the Los Angeles Times.
“His selection as Treasury secretary should send shivers down the spine of every American who got hit hard by the financial crisis, and is the latest sign that Donald Trump has no intention of draining the swamp and every intention of running Washington to benefit himself and his rich buddies," she said, as quoted by the newspaper.
Sen. Ron Wyden (D-OR) also took aim at Mnuchin’s time leading the bank OneWest, known for its aggressive foreclosure practices.
“Given Mr. Mnuchin’s history of profiting off the victims of predatory lending, I look forward to asking him how his Treasury Department would work for Americans who are still waiting for the economic recovery to show up in their communities," he said in a statement.
Fuhrer Drumpfenfarten is just a Republican that reflects all the hate of the Theocons, Alt-Right Nazis and KKK and all the greed of the Billionaires, Banksters, Corporate Criminals and Vulture Capitalists.
Cartoon:
May it survive to see its 50th anniversary.
Artist Gabriel Dawe believes that we can never have too many rainbows in our lives – and to that end, he is creating them … out of thread!
(Since, as typical for my “Friday Fun” posts, it’s graphic-heavy, I had hoped to start using slideshows to take up less real estate – but that feature was just added yesterday and the learning curve is steeper than I had hoped. Sorry. The photos from hereon will be medium-sized, but you can click on them to view full-sized. Unfortunately they can’t be formatted to open in a separate window just by clicking – but you can do that with a right-click and select “Open in New Tab”, or a scroll-wheel click if your mouse is programmed for that. And I would strongly encourage you to open them to full-size to appreciate their impact.)
Dawe explains that his rainbow art is a rebellion against his machismo upbringing in Mexico City. His mother was the first, and only, woman in his family to ever have a job outside their home. As a consequence, his maternal grandmother largely raised Gabriel and his sister. But while grandma was happy to teach his sister embroidery, and despite his strong desire to also learn, she refused because it ran counter to Mexican machismo gender traditions.
Fortunately that only steeled his resolve to learn – so maybe paradoxically we have Grandma to thank.
Dawe has numerically titled his rainbow creations “Plexus” – which is an intricate network of nerves or blood vessels. He explains he chose the term “Plexus” because “it refers to the connection of the body with its environment, but it also relates directly to the intricate network of threads forming the installation itself, and to the inherent tension in the thread, vibrating with an almost tangible luminosity.”
And although the main impetus to his rainbow creations was to challenge the gender stereotypes he had to deal with as a youth, he says they are not intended to be a political statement in support of equality for the LGBTQ community.
Dawe explains, “I’ve never made it about that. It’s that a rainbow represents light, not dark – and the idea that everything is one, and inclusion and unity.”
So let’s enjoy some of his creations, and I’ll add information as we proceed.
Plexus #19 (Villa Olmo in Como, Italy)
Amazingly enough he does not use any computer software in drafting his art – just detailed sketches.
Obviously it varies depending on the size of the venue displaying his creations, but typically Dawe will use between 60 and 90 MILES of cotton embroidery thread. And it takes up to ten days for his crew to install the very exacting work.
Plexus #29 (BYU)
As you can imagine, this is not an easy task. It involves hard work on the ground …
And in the air …
To create this …
Plexus #34 (Carter Museum, Ft. Worth)
And to create something like this …
Can be both vertiginous and dangerous …
But worth it …
Plexus #18 (San Antonio Airport)
To say that his rainbow creations make our spirits soar is an understatement …
This installation will remain on display in the airport for three more years.
Plexus #30 & #31 (Newark Museum)
Some of his installations that seem simple and straightforward …
Turn out to be anything but when viewed from different perspectives …
Plexus #35 (Toledo Museum)
His current exhibit is at the Toledo Museum
Plexus A1 (Renwick Gallery, Smithsonian Art Museum)
We’ll close as we begun with what, to my eye, is the most sensational creation at the Smithsonian – and full-sized …
Hard to believe that something so mundane as cotton embroidery thread …
Could be used to create something so beautiful …
For more information about and examples of his artwork, view Gabriel Dawe's website:
http://www.gabrieldawe.com/
Here are the results of our “Voter Punishment” poll. Politics Plus Polls are not scientific, because those who respond are not balanced according to demographic categories. Therefore, we do not accurately reflect the makeup of the US population. Nevertheless, our polls are usually factually accurate, and more often than not, they reflect thinking or will of the national majority.

Since our polling site no longer enables us to copy and paste your poll comments, you may read them here.
I ranked the penalties in order of severity. A bath in boiling oil is more severe than a cattle prod up the butt Eternity in hypothetical hell fire is more severe than the boiling oil. The Trump Reich is more severe than hell fire. All of the above is most severe at all, but still falls well short of being severe enough.
The New Poll is up, and you had better vote, because SantaCat is watching you.