{"id":9004,"date":"2012-10-03T12:00:56","date_gmt":"2012-10-03T19:00:56","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/?p=9004"},"modified":"2012-10-03T12:00:57","modified_gmt":"2012-10-03T19:00:57","slug":"open-thread1032012","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/2012\/10\/03\/open-thread1032012\/","title":{"rendered":"Open Thread&ndash;10\/3\/2012"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><font color=\"#0000ff\">Before I get the blog up today, I\u2019ll probably have to leave for an appointment, so it will be later than usual.&#160; I hope tonight\u2019s debate proves interesting.&#160; I\u2019m current with replies.&#160; Tomorrow appears routine.<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font color=\"#0000ff\"><strong>Jig Zone Puzzle<\/strong>:<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font color=\"#0000ff\">Today\u2019s took me 4:05 (average 4:24).&#160; To do it, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.jigzone.com\/puzzles\/2012-10-03-CE2504A965A9\" target=\"_blank\">click here<\/a>.<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font color=\"#0000ff\"><strong>Short Takes<\/strong>:<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font color=\"#0000ff\">From <a href=\"http:\/\/front.moveon.org\/hilarious-homer-simpson-has-a-warning-for-all-of-us-this-election-season\/\" target=\"_blank\">MoveOn<\/a>: <\/font>HILARIOUS! Homer Simpson Has A Warning For All Of Us This Election Season<\/p>\n<p>&#160;<iframe loading=\"lazy\" height=\"360\" src=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/ArC7XarwnWI?rel=0\" frameborder=\"0\" width=\"640\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe> <\/p>\n<p><font color=\"#0000ff\">If Lord Willard has his way, most of us will be outsourced too.<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font color=\"#0000ff\">From <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dailykos.com\/story\/2012\/10\/02\/1138968\/-47-layabouts-30-lazy-bums-Who-s-right-about-Americans-Mitt-Romney-or-Paul-Ryan\" target=\"_blank\">Daily Kos<\/a>: <\/font><font style=\"font-size: 12pt\">Ryan Grim <a href=\"http:\/\/www.huffingtonpost.com\/2012\/10\/02\/paul-ryan-30-percent-welfare-state_n_1933730.html?1349213901&amp;ncid=edlinkusaolp00000008\" target=\"_blank\">reports<\/a><font color=\"#0066cc\"><\/font> the vice presidential candidate made his remarks November 2011 at the annual <a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=Lx-x_FVnRdQ&amp;feature=related\" target=\"_blank\">The American Spectator&#8217;s 2011 Robert L. Bartley Gala Dinner<\/a><font color=\"#0066cc\"><\/font>, six months before Romney made his <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dailykos.com\/story\/2012\/10\/02\/1138968\/-47-layabouts-30-lazy-bums-Who-s-right-about-Americans-Mitt-Romney-or-Paul-Ryan?utm_source=feedburner&amp;utm_medium=feed&amp;utm_campaign=Feed%3A+dailykos%2Findex+%28Daily+Kos%29\" target=\"_blank\">47 percent<\/a><font color=\"#0066cc\"><\/font> remarks:<\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"line-height: normal; margin: 0in 0in 0in 0.375in; font-family: \"><font style=\"font-size: 12pt\">&quot;Seventy percent of Americans want the American dream. They believe in the American idea. Only 30 percent want their welfare state,&quot; Ryan said. &quot;Before too long, we could become a society where the net majority of Americans are takers, not makers.&quot; [&#8230;] <\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"line-height: normal; margin: 0in 0in 0in 0.375in; font-family: \"><font style=\"font-size: 12pt\">&quot;Today, 70 percent of Americans get more benefits from the federal government in dollar value than they pay back in taxes,&quot; Ryan said. &quot;So you could argue that we&#8217;re already past that [moral] tipping point. The good news is survey after survey, poll after poll, still shows that we are a center-right 70-30 country. Seventy percent of Americans want the American dream. They believe in the American idea. Only 30 percent want their welfare state. What that tells us is at least half of those people who are currently in that category are there not of their wish or their will.&quot;<\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"line-height: normal; margin: 0in; font-family: \"><font style=\"font-size: 12pt\">&#8230;<\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"line-height: normal; margin: 0in; font-family: \"><font size=\"3\"><\/font><\/p>\n<p><font color=\"#0000ff\">What Lord Willard said about 47% of Americans was not just an inarticulate gaffe. It&#8217;s an accurate reflection of Republican dogma.<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font color=\"#0000ff\">From <a href=\"http:\/\/www.alternet.org\/news-amp-politics\/idiocracy-seven-ten-republicans-believe-wacky-conspiracy-theory-pollsters-are\" target=\"_blank\">Alternet<\/a>: <\/font>There must be something liberating about being able to conjure up your own reality whenever the objective facts don&#8217;t suit you. But it&#8217;s not healthy for our democracy.&#160; <\/p>\n<p>Perhaps one shouldn&#8217;t be surprised by a poll released today that finds more than 7 in 10 GOP voters believing that the polls are being intentionally &quot;skewed&quot; to favor Obama &#8212; after all, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.pewforum.org\/Politics-and-Elections\/Little-Voter-Discomfort-with-Romney%E2%80%99s-Mormon-Religion.aspx\" target=\"_blank\">a third of conservative Republicans believe that the president&#8217;s a Muslim<\/a>.     <\/p>\n<p><font color=\"#0000ff\">We never know what <em>facts<\/em> Republicans will argue, because they make up their own as needed.<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font color=\"#0000ff\"><strong>Cartoon<\/strong>:<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font color=\"#0000ff\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"display: inline\" title=\"3Cartoon\" alt=\"3Cartoon\" src=\"https:\/\/www.7thstep.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/10\/3Cartoon.jpg\" width=\"650\" height=\"400\" \/><\/font><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Before I get the blog up today, I\u2019ll probably have to leave for an appointment, so it will be later than usual.&#160; I hope tonight\u2019s debate proves interesting.&#160; I\u2019m current with replies.&#160; Tomorrow appears routine. Jig Zone Puzzle: Today\u2019s took me 4:05 (average 4:24).&#160; To do it, click here. Short Takes: From MoveOn: HILARIOUS! Homer <a href='https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/2012\/10\/03\/open-thread1032012\/' class='excerpt-more'>[&#8230;]<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[35,3,5],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-9004","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-open-thread","category-personal","category-politics","category-35-id","category-3-id","category-5-id","post-seq-1","post-parity-odd","meta-position-corners","fix"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/9004","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=9004"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/9004\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=9004"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=9004"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=9004"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}