{"id":620,"date":"2010-02-13T03:03:00","date_gmt":"2010-02-13T11:03:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/?p=620"},"modified":"2010-02-13T03:03:00","modified_gmt":"2010-02-13T11:03:00","slug":"lawrence-odonnell-blasts-gop-torture-monger","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/2010\/02\/13\/lawrence-odonnell-blasts-gop-torture-monger\/","title":{"rendered":"Lawrence O&#8217;Donnell Blasts GOP Torture Monger"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Let\u2019s give him a big \u2018thank you\u2019.<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p><font color=\"#000000\"><a href=\"http:\/\/s217.photobucket.com\/albums\/cc83\/TomCat1948or2\/Blog%202010\/J-M\/LawrenceODonnellBlastsGOPTortureMonger_2A48\/UStorture.jpg\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border-right-width: 0px; margin: 0px 10px 0px 0px; display: inline; border-top-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px\" title=\"US torture\" border=\"0\" alt=\"US torture\" align=\"left\" src=\"http:\/\/s217.photobucket.com\/albums\/cc83\/TomCat1948or2\/Blog%202010\/J-M\/LawrenceODonnellBlastsGOPTortureMonger_2A48\/UStorture_thumb.jpg\" width=\"183\" height=\"244\" \/><\/a> Political analyst Lawrence O&#8217;Donnell is known for his strong opinions and occasional passionate outbursts. In 2004, he repeatedly shouted down [wing-nut delinked] Swift Boat Veterans spokesman John O&#8217;Neill with cries of &quot;liar,&quot; leading conservative blogger Michelle Malkin to describe him as &quot;unhinged.&quot;<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font color=\"#000000\">Now O&#8217;Donnell has repeated the performance by confronting Marc Thiessen, a former speechwriter for Donald Rumsfeld and George W. Bush, staunch<\/font> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/wp-dyn\/content\/article\/2009\/04\/20\/AR2009042002818.html\" target=\"_blank\">defender<\/a> <font color=\"#000000\">of &quot;enhanced interrogation,&quot; and author of Courting Disaster: How the CIA Kept America Safe and How Barack Obama Is Inviting the Next Attack.<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font color=\"#000000\">During an appearance Friday on MSNBC&#8217;s Morning Joe, Thiessen began by telling host Joe Scarborough, &quot;Barack Obama has eliminated the CIA&#8217;s interrogation program, which is the single most successful and important intelligence program in the war on terror and possibly in the history of the CIA. &#8230; You&#8217;ve got to think back to the period after 9\/11. <strong>We didn&#8217;t even know who hit us<\/strong>. &#8230; <strong>This program is why we did not have another 9\/11<\/strong>.&quot;<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font color=\"#000000\">O&#8217;Donnell wasn&#8217;t buying it, however. He told Thiessen, &quot;You actually published a book that says that the president of the United States &#8230; &#8216;is inviting the next attack.&#8217; <strong>Isn&#8217;t it true that the president you worked for invited the first attack by having no idea what was going on with al Qaeda<\/strong>?&quot;<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font color=\"#000000\">By this point, Scarborough had already begun attempting to cut O&#8217;Donnell off, repeatedly saying, &quot;Lawrence, that&#8217;s ridiculous,&quot; but O&#8217;Donnell continued inexorably.<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font color=\"#000000\">&quot;You just admitted that when you were hit on 9\/11, you just said, &#8216;We didn&#8217;t know who hit us,&#8217;&quot; O&#8217;Donnell stated. &quot;<strong>You were told who was going to hit you before we were hit on 9\/11, and your administration invited the first attack &#8212; for which you should live in shame!<\/strong>&quot;<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font color=\"#000000\">As Thiessen attempted to respond by counting up the number of terrorist incidents under the Clinton administration and O&#8217;Donnell continued to talk over him, Scarborough finally jumped in to say, &quot;<strong>We&#8217;re going to break, right now &#8230; and I&#8217;m going to be interviewing Marc by myself<\/strong>.&quot;<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font color=\"#000000\">When the show resumed, Scarborough could be heard saying to Mika Brzezinski, &quot;&#8230;<strong><font color=\"#ff0000\">if you don&#8217;t balance the meds just right, crazy Lawrence<\/font><\/strong>&#8230;&quot;<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font color=\"#000000\">This time Thiessen was allowed to make his argument that we were &quot;caught blind&quot; by the Christmas bomber because we no longer have the ability to torture terrorists. &quot;The Obama administration has thrown that out and gone back to the pre-9\/11 approach,&quot; he concluded.<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font color=\"#000000\">Given just 30 seconds to respond, O&#8217;Donnell asked Thiessen, &quot;I&#8217;m wondering about your own personal experience with torture. I know you grew up in the richest zip code in America, on the Upper East Side. You went to the only boarding school in Connecticut that I know of that has a golf course &#8230; and, of course, <strong>like all the torture-mongers in the White House, the Cheney family included, you never served a day in the military<\/strong>. &#8230; <strong>With that background, what is it that gives you an expertise in torture? What makes you love it so much<\/strong>?&quot;<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font color=\"#000000\">&quot;<strong>I actually met with the actual interrogators,&quot; Thiessen replied. &quot;That&#8217;s my expertise<\/strong>.&quot;&#8230;<\/font><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Inserted from &lt;<a href=\"http:\/\/rawstory.com\/2010\/02\/scarborough-blames-odonnell-meds\/\" target=\"_blank\">Raw Story<\/a>&gt;<\/p>\n<p>Thiessen lied when he said we didn\u2019t know who hit us.&#160; When Thiessen tried to list Clinton\u2019s shortcomings when confronted with the Bush\/GOP failure responsible for the catastrophe, Thiessen was using deferment.&#160; This is a criminal thinking error I teach prisoners and former prisoners to avoid.&#160; Rather that face up to it, Thiessen deferred by changing the subject.&#160; Of course the \u2018interrogators\u2019, actually torturers, believe what they did was worthwhile.&#160; Without that belief, how could they sleep at night?&#160; Thiessen thus based his so-called expertise on the least reliable possible source.<\/p>\n<p>Scarborough should be ashamed for trying to allow Thiessen to parrot his GOP lies unopposed, and his \u2018balance the meds\u2019 comment was despicable.&#160; I will be calling MSNBC later today to complain.&#160; If you care to join me, their number is (212) 664-4444.<\/p>\n<p>Keith Olbermann also debunked Thiessen\u2019s bogus claims, and discussed the incident with Lawrence O\u2019Donnell.<\/p>\n<p>&#160;<object width=\"420\" height=\"245\" id=\"msnbc6254ea\"><param name=\"movie\" value=\"http:\/\/www.msnbc.msn.com\/id\/32545640\" classid=\"clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000\" codebase=\"http:\/\/download.macromedia.com\/pub\/shockwave\/cabs\/flash\/swflash.cab#version=10,0,0,0\"><param name=\"FlashVars\" value=\"launch=35374845&amp;width=420&amp;height=245\"><param name=\"allowScriptAccess\" value=\"always\" \/><param name=\"allowFullScreen\" value=\"true\" \/><param name=\"wmode\" value=\"opaque\" \/><embed name=\"msnbc6254ea\" src=\"http:\/\/www.msnbc.msn.com\/id\/32545640\" width=\"420\" height=\"245\" FlashVars=\"launch=35374845&#038;width=420&#038;height=245\" allowscriptaccess=\"always\" allowFullScreen=\"true\" wmode=\"opaque\" type=\"application\/x-shockwave-flash\" pluginspage=\"http:\/\/www.adobe.com\/shockwave\/download\/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash\"><\/embed><\/object><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center; margin-top: 5px; width: 420px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; background: none transparent scroll repeat 0% 0%; color: #999; font-size: 11px\">Visit msnbc.com for <a style=\"border-bottom: #999 1px dotted; height: 13px; color: #5799db !important; font-weight: normal !important; text-decoration: none !important\" href=\"http:\/\/www.msnbc.msn.com\" target=\"_blank\">breaking news<\/a>, <a style=\"border-bottom: #999 1px dotted; height: 13px; color: #5799db !important; font-weight: normal !important; text-decoration: none !important\" href=\"http:\/\/www.msnbc.msn.com\/id\/3032507\" target=\"_blank\">world news<\/a>, and <a style=\"border-bottom: #999 1px dotted; height: 13px; color: #5799db !important; font-weight: normal !important; text-decoration: none !important\" href=\"http:\/\/www.msnbc.msn.com\/id\/3032072\">news about the economy<\/a><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p>Obama killing too many terrorists?&#160; Whatever he\u2019s drinking, it must be mighty strong!<\/p>\n<p>Why is the GOP so intense in their support for torture?&#160; Here\u2019s why:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p><font color=\"#000000\"><a href=\"http:\/\/s217.photobucket.com\/albums\/cc83\/TomCat1948or2\/Blog%202010\/J-M\/LawrenceODonnellBlastsGOPTortureMonger_2A48\/republicanreich.jpg\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border-right-width: 0px; margin: 0px 0px 0px 10px; display: inline; border-top-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px\" title=\"republicanreich\" border=\"0\" alt=\"republicanreich\" align=\"right\" src=\"http:\/\/s217.photobucket.com\/albums\/cc83\/TomCat1948or2\/Blog%202010\/J-M\/LawrenceODonnellBlastsGOPTortureMonger_2A48\/republicanreich_thumb.jpg\" width=\"158\" height=\"244\" \/><\/a> A New York Times \/ CBS<\/font> <a href=\"http:\/\/documents.nytimes.com\/new-york-times-cbs-news-poll#p=1\" target=\"_blank\">poll <\/a><font color=\"#000000\">confirms the findings from other polls that I<\/font> <a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.alternet.org\/speakeasy\/2010\/02\/12\/2010\/02\/11\/should-obama-commit-political-suicide\/\" target=\"_blank\">reported <\/a><font color=\"#000000\">here yesterday:&#160; <strong>The public approves of Barack Obama\u2019s handling of \u201cthe threat of terrorism\u201d far more than it approves his performance on any other issue<\/strong>.<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font color=\"#000000\">But the new poll asked a couple of question that the earlier polls I linked to did not, and the results are kind of startling.<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font color=\"#000000\">\u201cHow likely do you think it is that there will be another terrorist attack in the United States in the next few months?\u201d \u2014 not next few years, next few months.&#160; 58% say very or somewhat likely.<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font color=\"#000000\">\u201cWhat do you think is the most important problem facing the country today?\u201d 1% say \u201cterrorism.\u201d One percent!<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font color=\"#000000\">If my math is right, 57% of the respondents \u2014 presumably a representative cross-section of the American people \u2014 expect a terrorist attack here in the next few months but do not think it\u2019s the most important problem we have to deal with. I suppose they expect to happen somewhere else, not where they live.<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font color=\"#000000\">Yet, as I noted yesterday, Obama\u2019s political standing depends rests heavily on public approval of the way he\u2019s handling terrorism. If he didn\u2019t have high marks in that department, he might very well be even lower than the 46% overall approval that this Times \/ CBS poll gives him\u2026 [<em>emphasis added<\/em>]<\/font><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Inserted from &lt;<a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.alternet.org\/speakeasy\/2010\/02\/12\/threat-of-terrorism-is-more-symbolic-than-actual\/\" target=\"_blank\">AlterNet<\/a>&gt; <\/p>\n<p>Since Karl Rove took over GOP strategy, attacking strength and falsely portraying it as weakness has been their standard ploy, and it\u2019s been quite effective. For example, John Kerry was a war hero running against GW ChickenHawk, who used GHWB\u2019s influence to get into the Air Guard, opted out of foreign deployment, and even ducked out of that commitment.&#160; Rove attacked Kerry\u2019s strength with the Swift Boat lies, and they worked well enough for Diebold creativity in Ohio to enable Bush\u2019s second theft of the White House.&#160; What the GOP is doing now in their quest for totalitarian power is no different.&#160; The <strong>good news<\/strong> is that Lawrence O\u2019Donnell heroically refused to let Thiessen propagate their lies unchallenged.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Let\u2019s give him a big \u2018thank you\u2019. Political analyst Lawrence O&#8217;Donnell is known for his strong opinions and occasional passionate outbursts. In 2004, he repeatedly shouted down [wing-nut delinked] Swift Boat Veterans spokesman John O&#8217;Neill with cries of &quot;liar,&quot; leading conservative blogger Michelle Malkin to describe him as &quot;unhinged.&quot; Now O&#8217;Donnell has repeated the performance <a href='https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/2010\/02\/13\/lawrence-odonnell-blasts-gop-torture-monger\/' class='excerpt-more'>[&#8230;]<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[5],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-620","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-politics","category-5-id","post-seq-1","post-parity-odd","meta-position-corners","fix"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/620","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=620"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/620\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=620"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=620"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=620"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}