{"id":58360,"date":"2026-01-08T00:03:13","date_gmt":"2026-01-08T08:03:13","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/?p=58360"},"modified":"2026-01-08T00:06:17","modified_gmt":"2026-01-08T08:06:17","slug":"open-thread-january-8-2025-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/2026\/01\/08\/open-thread-january-8-2025-2\/","title":{"rendered":"Open Thread January 8 2025"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Yesterday, as I am pretty sure everyone knows, an ICE agent shot a woman in the back of the head three times while she was in her car, attempting to get away\/out of the way. She died instantly. The car continued to move (Malcolm Nance described this as &#8220;Dead Woman Driving&#8221;) and crashed into some other vehicles. The air bag inflated and was covered with blood. I can now confirm she was a US citizen. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theroot.com\/from-george-floyd-to-renee-good-minneapolis-faces-new-2000083024\">The Root<\/a> shared her name and a link to a very moving <a href=\"https:\/\/www.startribune.com\/she-was-an-amazing-human-being-mother-identifies-woman-shot-killed-by-ice-agent\/601559922\">obituary<\/a>, as well as a slow-motion video with labels of what happened when. Nameless saw this before I did, and posted a comment with three NSFW headlines quoting the mayor of Minneapolis on yesterday&#8217;s OT to which I responded with everything I knew at the time.<a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/live\/-VhtJ2w8Drg?si=_MfNE69Rim1LrIbn&amp;t=81\"> Tim Walz has now given a statement<\/a> on public safety, together with the Director of Public Safety and the Colonel of the Minnesota National Guard.<\/p>\n<p>This from The 19th reminded me that fairly recently I saw that someone (I assume a male MAGA) was complaining that anyone who says &#8220;toxic masculinity&#8221; is really saying that all masculinity is toxic. I thought &#8220;Yeah, right &#8211; just like saying &#8220;counterfeit money&#8221; is saying that all money is counterfeit.&#8221; I suppose that not even all male ICE agents enjoy toxic masculinity, but there surely seem to be a lot of them.<\/p>\n<p>From <a href=\"https:\/\/www.commondreams.org\/news\/trump-greenland-threat-condemned\">Common Dreams<\/a>. The nerve of Stephen Miller saying that we have to act like thugs in order to support &#8220;the free world.&#8221; The U.S. can&#8217;t support the free world in any way when we aren&#8217;t even a part of it any more.<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"YouTube video player\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/MC0vKzRmPos?si=vtBuUJsjJsUigTX8\" width=\"560\" height=\"315\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"YouTube video player\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/c94CAIMSwk4?si=eD7eMQ4WiW4x5y0d\" width=\"560\" height=\"315\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-full wp-image-58362\" src=\"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/should.gif\" alt=\"\" width=\"600\" height=\"410\" \/><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Yesterday, as I am pretty sure everyone knows, an ICE agent shot a woman in the back of the head three times while she was in her car, attempting to get away\/out of the way. She died instantly. The car continued to move (Malcolm Nance described this as &#8220;Dead Woman Driving&#8221;) and crashed into some <a href='https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/2026\/01\/08\/open-thread-january-8-2025-2\/' class='excerpt-more'>[&#8230;]<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":8,"featured_media":58319,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[35,3,5],"tags":[7019,4355,4111,6372,3781,4077,3811,3792,5633],"class_list":["post-58360","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-open-thread","category-personal","category-politics","tag-free-world","tag-animals","tag-cats","tag-deportation","tag-elections","tag-ice","tag-personal","tag-robert-reich","tag-toxic-masculinity","category-35-id","category-3-id","category-5-id","post-seq-1","post-parity-odd","meta-position-corners","fix"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/58360","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/8"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=58360"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/58360\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/58319"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=58360"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=58360"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=58360"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}