{"id":58199,"date":"2025-12-16T06:09:01","date_gmt":"2025-12-16T14:09:01","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/?p=58199"},"modified":"2025-12-16T00:09:42","modified_gmt":"2025-12-16T08:09:42","slug":"open-thread-december-16-2025","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/2025\/12\/16\/open-thread-december-16-2025\/","title":{"rendered":"Open Thread December 16 2025"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Yesterday, as usual on Monday, I slept late. I still managed to take in and put away a large grocery order, though. And even do a little knitting (while waiting for the delivery.)<\/p>\n<p>I learned about <a href=\"https:\/\/www.commondreams.org\/news\/trump-rob-reiner\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">this Sunday evening<\/a>. All the sane people on the &#8216;net are reminding all of us that we have very few confirmed facts yet, and that we harm ourselves more than any one else if we speculate &#8211; especially out loud &#8211; and I 100% agree. So why does the headline read like a confession to me? Also, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.marytrump.org\/p\/no-such-thing-as-worst\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Mary Trump<\/a> responded to the Orange Ogre&#8217;s garbage &#8211; she is clearly angry but accurate. <a href=\"https:\/\/johnpavlovitz.substack.com\/p\/trump-derangement-syndrome-is-real\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">John Pavlovitz<\/a> responded &#8220;Trump Derangement Syndrome Is Real. He and His Supporters Have It.&#8221; which I have also been thinking for some time. Joyce Vance also had words &#8211; and also provided the meme I have placed below the videos &#8211; quite a contrast.<\/p>\n<p>Yes, this is a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cpr.org\/2025\/12\/12\/movie-inspired-tina-peters-pardon-push-colorado\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Colorado story<\/a>. And I hope and pray it stays that way. Because if it makes it to our current SCROTUS, there will to pay throughout the nation.<\/p>\n<p>There&#8217;s no link for this story &#8211; it was an email from Tim Walz&#8217;s reelection campaign. It made me laugh. It&#8217;s short, so I&#8217;ll just quote the text in full (without the donate page):<br \/>\n&#8220;Normally, when someone is going through a fast-food drive-thru, they\u2019re eagerly awaiting a delicious burger and some crispy french fries. Not Mike Lindell though. When he\u2019s going through a drive-thru, he\u2019s getting his phone seized by the FBI.<br \/>\n&#8220;You read that right.<br \/>\n&#8220;Mike Lindell\u2019s conspiracy theories caught up to him in 2022 in a Mankato Hardee\u2019s drive-thru, when his phone was seized in relation to a federal investigation into his acts to undermine the 2020 election.<br \/>\n&#8220;We can say this for sure: Governor Walz has not had his phone seized by the FBI in a Hardee\u2019s drive-thru. Have you?<br \/>\nIf you\u2019re with Tim, and haven\u2019t been surrounded by FBI agents in a fast food drive-thru because you\u2019re being federally investigated \u2014 chip in $5 to keep someone who has from becoming governor of Minnesota.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"YouTube video player\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/hSv4zSS7z1E?si=e2xAjpXtl7MpcQvt\" width=\"560\" height=\"315\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"YouTube video player\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/JmRjQNiWgdY?si=MQcTOO5BbYW0jaPW\" width=\"560\" height=\"315\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe>.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-full wp-image-58201\" src=\"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Rob.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"715\" height=\"868\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Rob.jpg 715w, https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Rob-247x300.jpg 247w, https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Rob-124x150.jpg 124w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 715px) 100vw, 715px\" \/><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Yesterday, as usual on Monday, I slept late. I still managed to take in and put away a large grocery order, though. And even do a little knitting (while waiting for the delivery.) I learned about this Sunday evening. All the sane people on the &#8216;net are reminding all of us that we have very <a href='https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/2025\/12\/16\/open-thread-december-16-2025\/' class='excerpt-more'>[&#8230;]<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":8,"featured_media":57127,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[35,3,5],"tags":[6817,4355,4111,4344,6944,6945,4367,3811,6946,6947,5916],"class_list":["post-58199","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-open-thread","category-personal","category-politics","tag-murders","tag-animals","tag-cats","tag-colorado","tag-decency","tag-house-rebellion","tag-minnesota","tag-personal","tag-pillow-guy","tag-rob-and-michelle-reiner","tag-tina-peters","category-35-id","category-3-id","category-5-id","post-seq-1","post-parity-odd","meta-position-corners","fix"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/58199","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/8"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=58199"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/58199\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/57127"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=58199"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=58199"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=58199"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}