{"id":577,"date":"2010-02-03T01:33:00","date_gmt":"2010-02-03T09:33:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/?p=577"},"modified":"2010-02-03T01:33:00","modified_gmt":"2010-02-03T09:33:00","slug":"torture-not-required","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/2010\/02\/03\/torture-not-required\/","title":{"rendered":"Torture Not Required!"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Yesterday it broke that the underwear bomber is cooperating with US authorities and providing valuable intelligence about AQ in Yemen that has been confirmed accurate.<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p><font color=\"#000000\"><a href=\"http:\/\/s217.photobucket.com\/albums\/cc83\/TomCat1948or2\/Blog%202010\/J-M\/TortureNotRequired_B16\/UStorture.jpg\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border-right-width: 0px; margin: 0px 0px 0px 10px; display: inline; border-top-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px\" title=\"US torture\" border=\"0\" alt=\"US torture\" align=\"right\" src=\"http:\/\/s217.photobucket.com\/albums\/cc83\/TomCat1948or2\/Blog%202010\/J-M\/TortureNotRequired_B16\/UStorture_thumb.jpg\" width=\"228\" height=\"304\" \/><\/a> The family of the failed Christmas Day bomber, Umar Farouq Abdulmuttalab, played a pivotal role in getting their son to start cooperating with federal authorities in sharing information about Al Qaeda, a senior administration official said Tuesday evening.<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font color=\"#000000\">Abdulmuttalab has been cooperating with authorities and sharing intelligence since last Thursday, another administration official told ABC News.<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font color=\"#000000\">The family was \u201cinstrumental in gaining Mr. Abdulmuttalab\u2019s cooperation,&quot; said the senior administration official. <strong>The information Abdulmuttalab is sharing has been described by other officials as fresh and actionable<\/strong>.<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font color=\"#000000\">\u201cIt has been very successful,&quot; the official said, &quot;as far as gaining his cooperation that will allow us then to follow up on that information.&quot; He said the intelligence gained &quot;has been disseminated throughout the intelligence community.&quot;\u2026<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font color=\"#000000\">&#8230;Abdulmuttalab was talking to FBI agents on Saturday, at the same time Sen. Susan Collins, R-Maine, ranking Republican on the Senate Homeland Security Committee, issued the Republican response to the president&#8217;s weekly address, decrying Abdulmuttalab&#8217;s presence in the criminal justice system. <\/font><\/p>\n<p><font color=\"#000000\">Collins is just one of many critics questioning why Abdulmuttalab was read his Miranda rights under the criminal justice system instead of being interrogated under military rules.<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font color=\"#000000\">\u201cThere is a reason why these things are done the way they are done and believe me it frustrated the hell out of me to listen to a lot of the comments being made that were criticizing this process,&quot; the official said. &quot;<strong>But the premium that this White House \u2013 that this president puts on these operations \u2013 is to make sure that we do everything possible to protect the American people<\/strong>.\u201d<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font color=\"#000000\">The official said &quot;people with no experience and apparently less knowledge about the case and the issues involved have made it a cause c\u00e9l\u00e8bre . As though there were some type of strange practice or action that took place here. When it\u2019s consistent with all the practices of the previous administration.\u201d<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font color=\"#000000\">Those who had access to Abdulmuttalab concluded that &quot;putting him in front of somebody with a military uniform would have made him even more opposed to any type of cooperation,&quot; the official said. &quot;The way to get to him is to use family members who are going to be supportive of what we\u2019re trying to do\u201d<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font color=\"#000000\">The FBI agents involved in making the decisions &quot;did it exactly the way they were trained to do, the way past practice has occurred without exception,&quot; the official said. &quot;<strong>There were a lot of politicians who were speaking out who had not one lick of counterterrorism experience who were second-guessing the professionals who have engaged in these issues, very successfully and in a very dedicated fashion over the years<\/strong>. And to have a how-many-mile screwdriver from here to Detroit try to micromanage the process, I find it quite frankly appalling.\u201d<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font color=\"#000000\">The senior administration official expressed frustration that news of Abdulmuttalab&#8217;s cooperation was revealed to the public today. <\/font><\/p>\n<p><font color=\"#000000\">In congressional testimony, the director of National Intelligence, Admiral Dennis Blair (ret.), said of Abdulmuttalab, &quot;we got good intelligence. We&#8217;re getting more.&quot; <\/font><\/p>\n<p><font color=\"#000000\">FBI director Robert Mueller said as much as well\u2026 [<em>emphasis added<\/em>]<\/font><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Inserted from &lt;<a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.abcnews.com\/politicalpunch\/2010\/02\/obama-administration-secured-help-of-abdulmuttalabs-family-to-get-him-to-share-intelligence.html\" target=\"_blank\">ABC<\/a>&gt;<\/p>\n<p>The GOP torture mavens have made fools of themselves.&#160; Their way had two basic problems.&#160; First, torture is a violation of international treaties to which the US is a party.&#160; That makes torture a crime under US law and a war crime under international law.&#160; Second, torture produces flawed intelligence.<\/p>\n<p>Keith Olbermann and Jonathan Alter broke this down beautifully:<\/p>\n<p>&#160;<object width=\"420\" height=\"245\" id=\"msnbc86ef02\"><param name=\"movie\" value=\"http:\/\/www.msnbc.msn.com\/id\/32545640\" classid=\"clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000\" codebase=\"http:\/\/download.macromedia.com\/pub\/shockwave\/cabs\/flash\/swflash.cab#version=10,0,0,0\"><param name=\"FlashVars\" value=\"launch=35208524&amp;width=420&amp;height=245\"><param name=\"allowScriptAccess\" value=\"always\" \/><param name=\"allowFullScreen\" value=\"true\" \/><param name=\"wmode\" value=\"opaque\" \/><embed name=\"msnbc86ef02\" src=\"http:\/\/www.msnbc.msn.com\/id\/32545640\" width=\"420\" height=\"245\" FlashVars=\"launch=35208524&#038;width=420&#038;height=245\" allowscriptaccess=\"always\" allowFullScreen=\"true\" wmode=\"opaque\" type=\"application\/x-shockwave-flash\" pluginspage=\"http:\/\/www.adobe.com\/shockwave\/download\/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash\"><\/embed><\/object><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center; margin-top: 5px; width: 420px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; background: none transparent scroll repeat 0% 0%; color: #999; font-size: 11px\">Visit msnbc.com for <a style=\"border-bottom: #999 1px dotted; height: 13px; color: #5799db !important; font-weight: normal !important; text-decoration: none !important\" href=\"http:\/\/www.msnbc.msn.com\" target=\"_blank\">breaking news<\/a>, <a style=\"border-bottom: #999 1px dotted; height: 13px; color: #5799db !important; font-weight: normal !important; text-decoration: none !important\" href=\"http:\/\/www.msnbc.msn.com\/id\/3032507\" target=\"_blank\">world news<\/a>, and <a style=\"border-bottom: #999 1px dotted; height: 13px; color: #5799db !important; font-weight: normal !important; text-decoration: none !important\" href=\"http:\/\/www.msnbc.msn.com\/id\/3032072\" target=\"_blank\">news about the economy<\/a><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p>Alter\u2019s point that the GOP\u2019s continual lying that Obama is weak on terrorists provides incentive for terrorists to attack us is certainly valid.&#160; Don\u2019t they care about keeping America safe?&#160; The most helpful event in returning the GOP to power would be a successful terrorist attack on the US on Obama\u2019s watch.&#160; Hmmm\u2026.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Yesterday it broke that the underwear bomber is cooperating with US authorities and providing valuable intelligence about AQ in Yemen that has been confirmed accurate. 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