{"id":49863,"date":"2022-11-17T07:17:49","date_gmt":"2022-11-17T15:17:49","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/?p=49863"},"modified":"2022-11-16T16:30:19","modified_gmt":"2022-11-17T00:30:19","slug":"open-thread-november-17-2022","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/2022\/11\/17\/open-thread-november-17-2022\/","title":{"rendered":"Open Thread November 17, 2022"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Yesterday, I did manage to get the trash and recyclables out to the curb for today&#8217;s pickup. Also, more updates appear to indicate that the missile hitting Poland (and killing between 2 and 5 people &#8211; depending on the source) was not intentional on anyone&#8217;s part &#8211; although it would not have happened had ussia not been shooting missiles all over Ukraine out of pure spite.\u00a0 NATO is going to have to do a lot of talking and thinking about it but, no one is looking at World War III.<\/p>\n<p>Cartoon &#8211;<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-14139\" src=\"https:\/\/www.7thstep.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/11\/1117Cartoon.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"650\" height=\"400\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/11\/1117Cartoon.jpg 650w, https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/11\/1117Cartoon-300x184.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 650px) 100vw, 650px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Short Takes &#8211;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/crooksandliars.com\/2022\/11\/political-contamination-jamie-raskin-slams\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Crooks &amp; Liars &#8211; &#8216;Political Contamination&#8217;: Jamie Raskin Slams 155 Election Deniers In Congress<\/a><br \/>\nQuote &#8211; CBS host Margaret Brennan reported on Sunday that her network had tallied election deniers who will serve in the new Congress. According to the tally, deniers of the election won 155 House seats and nine Senate seats in the U.S. Congress. That was in addition to 18 wins at the state level. &#8220;That&#8217;s a statement about the political contamination of the GOP by Donald Trump,&#8221; Raskin told Brennan. &#8220;Kevin McCarthy and other leaders in the Republican Party are now required to make a decision about whether they&#8217;re going to try rid themselves of Donald Trump and his toxic influence on the party.&#8221;<br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/crooksandliars.com\/2022\/11\/political-contamination-jamie-raskin-slams\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Click through for article<\/a>. Let&#8217;s for the sake of argument assume they have 218 seats. 218 &#8211; 155 = 63 non-deniers, at most. I find myself wondering whether McCarthy is even Trumpy enough for them. Because if he isn&#8217;t,\u00a0 he&#8217;s toast. And his replacement could be far sorse.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.politico.com\/news\/2022\/11\/14\/biden-pelosi-house-midterm-results-00066844\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Politico &#8211; Biden to Pelosi: \u2018I Hope You Stick\u2019<\/a><br \/>\nQuote &#8211; \u201cI hope you stick,\u201d Biden told Pelosi in a phone call after congratulating her on the caucus\u2019s unexpected victories and asking about her convalescing husband, according to Democrats familiar with the conversation. Pelosi interjected to note her personal considerations and Biden continued, \u201cI know it\u2019s family first but I hope you stick,\u201d before Pelosi deflected again. Biden wasn\u2019t on the ballot and Pelosi faced little challenge in her San Francisco district, but you wouldn\u2019t have known it from their reactions to the results. The soon-to-be 80-year-old president and the 82-year-old speaker, mutual admirers with similar roots and shared grievances toward critics and wise-guy pundits, were bullish about their prospects and felt vindicated by the party\u2019s success.<br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.politico.com\/news\/2022\/11\/14\/biden-pelosi-house-midterm-results-00066844\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Click through for &#8211; more details than you might like.<\/a> The article degenerates into comments from just about everyone but Nancy herself about what she should do. (And I&#8217;m sick of hearing about Biden&#8217;s &#8220;low approval rating.&#8221; It&#8217;s higher than Trump** EVER had in all four years.) But the mutual respect between Pelosi and Biden shines through and makes up for that.<\/p>\n<p>Food For Thought<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-49873\" src=\"https:\/\/www.7thstep.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/USANancy.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"750\" height=\"746\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/USANancy.jpg 750w, https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/USANancy-300x298.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/USANancy-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/USANancy-96x96.jpg 96w, https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/USANancy-24x24.jpg 24w, https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/USANancy-36x36.jpg 36w, https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/USANancy-48x48.jpg 48w, https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/USANancy-64x64.jpg 64w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 750px) 100vw, 750px\" \/><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-49631\" src=\"https:\/\/www.7thstep.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/Steal2.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/Steal2.jpg 800w, https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/Steal2-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/Steal2-150x113.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/Steal2-768x576.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\" \/><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Yesterday, I did manage to get the trash and recyclables out to the curb for today&#8217;s pickup. Also, more updates appear to indicate that the missile hitting Poland (and killing between 2 and 5 people &#8211; depending on the source) was not intentional on anyone&#8217;s part &#8211; although it would not have happened had ussia <a href='https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/2022\/11\/17\/open-thread-november-17-2022\/' class='excerpt-more'>[&#8230;]<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":8,"featured_media":46419,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[35,3,5],"tags":[4553,3704,4165,3760,3838,3805,3831],"class_list":["post-49863","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-open-thread","category-personal","category-politics","tag-campaign-2026","tag-cartoon","tag-congress","tag-joe-biden","tag-russia","tag-ukraine","tag-world","category-35-id","category-3-id","category-5-id","post-seq-1","post-parity-odd","meta-position-corners","fix"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/49863","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/8"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=49863"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/49863\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/46419"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=49863"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=49863"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=49863"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}