{"id":49539,"date":"2022-10-18T07:13:59","date_gmt":"2022-10-18T14:13:59","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/?p=49539"},"modified":"2022-10-17T14:33:04","modified_gmt":"2022-10-17T21:33:04","slug":"open-thread-october-18-2022","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/2022\/10\/18\/open-thread-october-18-2022\/","title":{"rendered":"Open Thread October 18, 2022"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Yesterday, I got the email that my ballot is in the mail to me. So I dropped what I was doing and reviewed the last three (out of 11) measures I hadn&#8217;t already revieed, and marked my cheat sheet Then I started on the county and local measures, and discovered part of the flyer was missing (it hadn&#8217;t been stapled.) I don&#8217;t live inside any city limits, but I do live in a school district (obviously) and two special districts &#8211; water\/sewer and fire.\u00a0 I think the rest of the flyer may be in the car, and I will check when I get a chance, but in the meantime I was able to find a sample ballot on the web for my county, and none of those districts have any measures on the ballot. So I think I&#8217;m ready.<\/p>\n<p>Cartoon &#8211;<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-13924\" src=\"https:\/\/www.7thstep.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/10\/1018Cartoon.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"650\" height=\"343\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/10\/1018Cartoon.jpg 650w, https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/10\/1018Cartoon-300x158.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 650px) 100vw, 650px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Short Takes &#8211;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.thebulwark.com\/the-munich-model-for-trumps-national-security-extortion\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">The Bulwark &#8211; The Munich Model for Trump\u2019s National Security Extortion<\/a><br \/>\nQuote &#8211; And even if these documents fail to work as a get out of jail free card, Trump has another card to play. He could call on his waiting army of supporters to threaten more violence on the public order. He has done this\u2014and carried out such a threat\u2014before. And he has already said, plainly, that he might do so again. Those in charge of prosecuting the former president should keep in mind history\u2019s clearest example of everything wrong with appeasing a narcissist: the calamity of Munich.<br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.thebulwark.com\/the-munich-model-for-trumps-national-security-extortion\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Click through for full op-ed<\/a>. I am beginning to think that, or at least to wonder whether, the delay in indicting is due in whole or part to exactly this &#8211; and wanting to gat defense mechanisms in place in advance to miniize the destruction. And that the presebce of MAGAts in police forces, national guards and other agencies complicates the effort, in part by making secrecy dauntingly difficult. It&#8217;s not as if we have&#8217;t see agencie formed for our protection include individuals bent on destruction.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/heathercoxrichardson.substack.com\/p\/october-15-2022\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Letters fron an American &#8211; October 15, 2022<\/a><br \/>\nQuote &#8211; Kinzinger\u2019s point was that Trump clearly knew he was leaving office because he was deliberately trying to create chaos for his successor. When he abruptly pulled the U.S. out of northern Syria in October 2019, he abandoned our Kurdish allies, forcing more than 160,000 Syrians from their homes and making them victims of extraordinary violence. The Pentagon considered Trump\u2019s November 11 instructions \u201ca rogue order,\u201d since they had not gone through any of the appropriate channels, and disregarded them.<br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/heathercoxrichardson.substack.com\/p\/october-15-2022\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Click through for full letter.<\/a> There is a great deal more analysis. I picked this quote to demonstrate that complete and total obedience in the military is neither desirable nor expected. This example demonstrates how not obeying an order which is not lawful is supposed to work &#8211; and does work more often than you might think.<\/p>\n<p>Food For Thought<br \/>\n<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-49545\" src=\"https:\/\/www.7thstep.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/think.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"650\" height=\"756\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/think.jpg 650w, https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/think-258x300.jpg 258w, https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/think-129x150.jpg 129w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 650px) 100vw, 650px\" \/><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-46420\" src=\"https:\/\/www.7thstep.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/Steal.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"558\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/Steal.jpg 800w, https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/Steal-300x209.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/Steal-150x105.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/Steal-768x536.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\" \/><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Yesterday, I got the email that my ballot is in the mail to me. So I dropped what I was doing and reviewed the last three (out of 11) measures I hadn&#8217;t already revieed, and marked my cheat sheet Then I started on the county and local measures, and discovered part of the flyer was <a href='https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/2022\/10\/18\/open-thread-october-18-2022\/' class='excerpt-more'>[&#8230;]<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":8,"featured_media":46419,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[35,3,5],"tags":[4237,4553,3704,3712,3781,4115,5150,3928],"class_list":["post-49539","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-open-thread","category-personal","category-politics","tag-accountability","tag-campaign-2026","tag-cartoon","tag-donald-trump","tag-elections","tag-justice","tag-us-military","tag-vote-blue","category-35-id","category-3-id","category-5-id","post-seq-1","post-parity-odd","meta-position-corners","fix"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/49539","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/8"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=49539"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/49539\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/46419"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=49539"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=49539"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=49539"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}