{"id":26366,"date":"2017-02-17T13:02:18","date_gmt":"2017-02-17T21:02:18","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/?p=26366"},"modified":"2017-02-17T13:02:18","modified_gmt":"2017-02-17T21:02:18","slug":"open-thread-2172017","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/2017\/02\/17\/open-thread-2172017\/","title":{"rendered":"Open Thread &#8211; 2\/17\/2017"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><font color=\"#0000ff\">TGIF!&#160; I&#8217;m still running on a sleep deficit as humidity remains is 93%, having just dropped below 100% for the first time in three days, so I&#8217;m already fighting droopy eyelids.&#160; I hope you all have a peaceful, Republican-free weekend.<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font color=\"#0000ff\"><strong>Jig Zone Puzzle<\/strong>:<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font color=\"#0000ff\">Today&#8217;s took me 3:15 (average 5:27).&#160; To do it, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.jigzone.com\/puzzles\/2017-02-17-CE2504A965A9\" target=\"_blank\">click here<\/a>.&#160; How did you do?<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font color=\"#0000ff\"><strong>Short Takes<\/strong>:<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font color=\"#0000ff\">From <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2017\/02\/16\/world\/europe\/russia-ukraine-fake-news-dutch-vote.html\" target=\"_blank\">NY Times<\/a>: <\/font>Harry van Bommel, a left-wing member of the Dutch Parliament, had persuasive allies in convincing voters that they should reject a trade pact with Ukraine \u2014 his special \u201cUkrainian team,\u201d a gleefully contrarian group of \u00e9migr\u00e9s whose sympathies lay with Russia.<\/p>\n<p>They attended public meetings, appeared on television and used social media to denounce Ukraine\u2019s pro-Western government as a bloodthirsty kleptocracy, unworthy of Dutch support. As Mr. Van Bommel recalled, it \u201cwas very handy to show that not all Ukrainians were in favor.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Handy but also misleading: The most active members of the Ukrainian team were actually from Russia, or from Russian-speaking regions of Ukraine, and parroted the Kremlin line.<\/p>\n<p>The Dutch referendum, held last April, became a battering ram aimed at the European Union. With turnout low, Dutch voters rejected the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2016\/04\/07\/world\/europe\/dutch-voters-reject-european-union-deal-with-ukraine.html\" target=\"_blank\">trade agreement<\/a> between the European Union and Ukraine, delighting Moscow, emboldening pro-Russia populists around Europe and leaving political elites aghast.<\/p>\n<p><font color=\"#0000ff\">It looks like Trump is not the only traitor Russia manipulates.&#160; Lona, how could Bommel be considered &quot;left wing&quot; by the Times, when he acts like a damned Republican? <strong>RESIST<\/strong>!!<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font color=\"#0000ff\">From <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=2IEBSxXFmRI\" target=\"_blank\">YouTube<\/a> (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/user\/GQVideos\/videos\" target=\"_blank\">GQ Channel<\/a>): <\/font>Is The Trump White House High? | The Resistance with Keith Olbermann<\/p>\n<p>&#160;<iframe loading=\"lazy\" height=\"360\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube-nocookie.com\/embed\/2IEBSxXFmRI?rel=0\" frameborder=\"0\" width=\"640\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe> <\/p>\n<p><font color=\"#0000ff\">In Keith&#8217;s choice between high or what, I actually have to answer &quot;what&quot;. I gave not done drugs for over 30 years, but was a stoner in my day. I never dis a drug that could make someone as stupid, as deplorable, or as evil as the Potomac Puppet and his Reich.&#160; <strong>RESIST<\/strong>!!<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font color=\"#0000ff\">From <a href=\"http:\/\/www.salon.com\/2017\/02\/17\/rex-tillerson-state-department-have-been-sidelined-by-president-trump\/\" target=\"_blank\">Salon.com<\/a>: <\/font>President Donald Trump\u2019s new secretary of state, Rex Tillerson, doesn\u2019t seem to have a lot of pull in the White House.<\/p>\n<p>Despite a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.salon.com\/2017\/02\/01\/rex-tillerson-confirmed-along-party-lines-but-prior-presidents-had-easier-time-with-state-pick\/\" target=\"_blank\">contentious nomination hearing<\/a> in which Tillerson was confirmed by a party-line vote, Tillerson\u2019s influence is so minimal that senior state department officials need to ask foreign diplomats about President Trump\u2019s impending foreign policy decisions, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/us-news\/2017\/feb\/16\/rex-tillerson-state-department-sidelined-by-white-house\" target=\"_blank\">according to a report by The Guardian<\/a>. Tillerson has also avoided press questions, such as during his meeting with Russian foreign minister Sergei Lavrov. While this could simply be a residual habit from years running a secret multibillion dollar corporation, it could also be the result of Tillerson simply not being knowledgable about the Trump administration\u2019s foreign policy plans.<\/p>\n<p>Tillerson wasn\u2019t consulted about Trump\u2019s <a href=\"http:\/\/www.salon.com\/2017\/02\/01\/president-trumps-executive-order-on-muslims-is-a-ban-no-matter-what-sean-spicer-says\/\" target=\"_blank\">controversial Muslim travel ban<\/a> and no one at the state department was consulted during the dinner when the president approved his <a href=\"http:\/\/www.salon.com\/2017\/01\/31\/trumps-first-military-operation-kills-one-navy-seal-and-civilians-in-yemen-raid\/\" target=\"_blank\">disastrous raid in Yemen<\/a>. Even more telling, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.salon.com\/2017\/02\/10\/president-trump-nixed-rex-tillersons-pick-for-deputy-because-he-criticized-him-during-the-campaign\/\" target=\"_blank\">Trump rejected Tillerson\u2019s choice for deputy secretary of state<\/a>, Elliott Abrams, very suddenly and without consulting Tillerson first. The State Department has also <a href=\"http:\/\/www.cbsnews.com\/news\/state-dept-layoffs-under-rex-tillerson-being-carried-out\/\" target=\"_blank\">issued sweeping layoffs<\/a>, indicating that the foreign policy-making apparatus is going to be concentrated around Trump\u2019s inner circle rather than through various expert channels.<\/p>\n<p><font color=\"#0000ff\">Tillerson is there to relate work with Russia to destroy the Arctic to get the oil for Putin (R-RU). Foreign policy is conducted via tweets by twits that grab twats.&#160; <strong>RESIST<\/strong>!!<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font color=\"#0000ff\"><strong>Cartoon<\/strong>:<\/font><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" title=\"0217Cartoon\" style=\"border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; background-image: none; border-bottom-width: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-left: 0px; display: inline; padding-right: 0px; border-top-width: 0px\" border=\"0\" alt=\"0217Cartoon\" src=\"https:\/\/www.7thstep.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/02\/0217Cartoon.jpg\" width=\"650\" height=\"350\" \/><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>TGIF!&#160; I&#8217;m still running on a sleep deficit as humidity remains is 93%, having just dropped below 100% for the first time in three days, so I&#8217;m already fighting droopy eyelids.&#160; I hope you all have a peaceful, Republican-free weekend. Jig Zone Puzzle: Today&#8217;s took me 3:15 (average 5:27).&#160; To do it, click here.&#160; How <a href='https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/2017\/02\/17\/open-thread-2172017\/' class='excerpt-more'>[&#8230;]<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[35,3,5],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-26366","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-open-thread","category-personal","category-politics","category-35-id","category-3-id","category-5-id","post-seq-1","post-parity-odd","meta-position-corners","fix"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/26366","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=26366"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/26366\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=26366"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=26366"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=26366"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}