{"id":24098,"date":"2016-10-07T06:20:06","date_gmt":"2016-10-07T13:20:06","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/?p=24098"},"modified":"2016-10-07T06:20:06","modified_gmt":"2016-10-07T13:20:06","slug":"friday-fun-recap-of-vp-debate-via-tweets","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/2016\/10\/07\/friday-fun-recap-of-vp-debate-via-tweets\/","title":{"rendered":"Friday Fun: Recap of VP Debate via Tweets"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Whether you agree with the pundits who characterized this week&rsquo;s Vice-President Debate as the <em>&ldquo;Thrilla in Vanilla&rdquo;<\/em> featuring <em>bland-to-bland combat<\/em> or not, it&rsquo;s the only time (thank God!) we&rsquo;ll have to put up with Pence&rsquo;s pitiful prevarications on primetime TV.&nbsp; (Whatever else you may think of Pence, you&rsquo;ve got to hand it to him &ndash; the man can lie with the same aplomb as his running mate.&nbsp; Although it appears he may even be denying that Trump <strong><em>IS<\/em><\/strong> his running mate based on his lack of knowledge &ndash; or willful ignorance.)<\/p>\n<p>To let you know up front what my take on the evening, I&rsquo;ll tell you right now how I&rsquo;d score the debate:<\/p>\n<p><strong><em>Style<\/em><\/strong> &ndash; <strong>Pence<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>Substance<\/em><\/strong> &ndash; <strong>Kaine<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>Evening&rsquo;s Winner<\/em><\/strong> &ndash; <strong>Folks who watched <em><u>anything<\/u><\/em> else<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>So what did the <em>&ldquo;Twitterverse&rdquo;<\/em> have to say about the night?&nbsp; It was the common consensus that Kaine&rsquo;s incessant interruptions were a distraction that undermined his clear superior command of the facts &ndash; and I&rsquo;d agree with that.&nbsp; But <em>&ldquo;Liar, Liar <strong>Pence<\/strong> on Fire&rdquo;<\/em> wanton and repeated denial of easily verifiable facts also produced the consensus that while Pence may have won the evening, Kaine won the morning.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Facts and truth have a way of doing that &ndash; at least we hope so!<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"550\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">Pence laughs dismissively every time Kaine quotes an outrageous Trump quote.<\/p>\n<p>It&#39;s increasingly clear he just doesn&#39;t want to defend Trump.<\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Mo Elleithee (@MoElleithee) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/MoElleithee\/status\/783486502848360448\">October 5, 2016<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"550\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">The pattern in this debate: Governor Pence is pretending that Trump&#39;s statements and policies don&#39;t exist, rather than defending them.<\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Mike Schmidt (@mikereedschmidt) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/mikereedschmidt\/status\/783485683755278336\">October 5, 2016<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"550\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">It was shocking how much Pence was allowed to lie by the moderator. It was shocking how much he lied, period.<\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Matt O&#39;Brien (@ObsoleteDogma) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/ObsoleteDogma\/status\/783498526923841536\">October 5, 2016<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p>So while Pence lied the night away &ndash; he looked &ldquo;Presidential&rdquo; &hellip; <em>very<\/em> &ldquo;Presidential&rdquo; &hellip; with his lying.&nbsp; To the point that some pundits wondered how Pence&rsquo;s upstaging his boss would sit with Trump.<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"550\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">&quot;Whether Pence made tacit decision to abandon his boss or simply wasn&#39;t up to the challenge I don&#39;t know.&quot; <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/7bwM6XgYQq\">https:\/\/t.co\/7bwM6XgYQq<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/hashtag\/VPDebate?src=hash\">#VPDebate<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&mdash; America&#39;s Voice (@AmericasVoice) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/AmericasVoice\/status\/783518764872654848\">October 5, 2016<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"550\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">Trump adviser on debate after Pence passed up opportunities to defend him: &quot;Pence won overall, but lost with Trump&quot;<\/p>\n<p>&mdash; John Harwood (@JohnJHarwood) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/JohnJHarwood\/status\/783513968006537217\">October 5, 2016<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"550\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">more from adviser on Trump reaction to strong Pence debate following poor Trump showing last week: &quot;he can&#39;t stand to be upstaged&quot;<\/p>\n<p>&mdash; John Harwood (@JohnJHarwood) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/JohnJHarwood\/status\/783514764249034754\">October 5, 2016<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p>Hell, even <strong>Bill <em>&ldquo;The Bloody&rdquo;<\/em> Kristol<\/strong> joined in<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"550\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">I&#39;ve been critical of <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/GovPenceIN\">@GovPenceIN<\/a> as VP candidate, but I do want to congratulate him for throwing <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/realDonaldTrump\">@realDonaldTrump<\/a> under the bus last night.<\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Bill Kristol (@BillKristol) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/BillKristol\/status\/783646972225974272\">October 5, 2016<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p>So the question is, did Pence throw <strong>Trump<\/strong> under the bus in order to position himself for a run in 2020?<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"550\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">Second debate in a row where Trump can complain of a Mike that wasn&#39;t working for him.<\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Mike Gehrke (@mikegehrke) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/mikegehrke\/status\/783500890829381633\">October 5, 2016<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p>And the follow-up question of, how would &ldquo;<em>The Donald&rdquo;<\/em> react to the fact that <a href=\"http:\/\/theweek.com\/speedreads\/653130\/republicans-now-really-wish-mike-pence-nominee\" target=\"_blank\">republicans now wish they had chosen Pence over him because Pence looked slicker while bullshitting Americans with his bald-faced lies<\/a>.&nbsp; <em>(GOP: &ldquo;Facts?&nbsp; We don&rsquo;t need no stinkin&rsquo; facts!&rdquo;) <\/em><\/p>\n<p>Was there any doubt that Trump would recover by taking full credit for Pence&rsquo;s performance?<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"550\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">TRUMP on Pence: &quot;I\u2019m getting a lot of credit&#8230;he was my first hire.&quot; <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/10OUt2yRyI\">pic.twitter.com\/10OUt2yRyI<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/kylegriffin1\/status\/783748799529451520\">October 5, 2016<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p>The Twitterverse did veer off on a tangent sympathizing with the impossible task for Moderator <strong>Elaine Quijano<\/strong> of keeping control and fact-checking Pence&rsquo;s endless lies.<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"550\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">If I wanted to watch two white dudes bicker near a woman named Elaine, I would definitely just watch Seinfeld.<\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Maris Kreizman (@mariskreizman) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/mariskreizman\/status\/783486788211965952\">October 5, 2016<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p>So of course we were then treated to a flurry of <strong>Elaine\/Seinfeld<\/strong> Tweets &hellip;<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"550\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">Elaine dealing with all these interruptions <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/hashtag\/VPDebate?src=hash\">#VPDebate<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/2WPr7dpyXY\">pic.twitter.com\/2WPr7dpyXY<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Danase Macabre (@DanaSchwartzzz) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/DanaSchwartzzz\/status\/783486990041907201\">October 5, 2016<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"550\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">Elaine during this debate <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/hashtag\/VPDebate?src=hash\">#VPDebate<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/hoftQeV7bV\">pic.twitter.com\/hoftQeV7bV<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Alex Bedder (@itgetsbedder) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/itgetsbedder\/status\/783485834318274560\">October 5, 2016<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"550\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">Where&#39;s the Go Fund Me to buy Elaine Quijano a drink? <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/hashtag\/VPDebate?src=hash\">#VPDebate<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Nicole Paulhus (@nlpaulhus) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/nlpaulhus\/status\/783489423790923780\">October 5, 2016<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p>But then we were taken aback when Pence, a full-fledged Talibangelical christianist, provided a couple of surprising double entendres:<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"550\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">&quot;I try to spend a little time every day on my knees.&quot;<br \/>&quot;You whipped out that Mexican thing again.&quot;<br \/>This has taken an unexpected turn.<\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Mark Harris (@MarkHarrisNYC) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/MarkHarrisNYC\/status\/783494508738666496\">October 5, 2016<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p>So what&rsquo;s the final verdict?&nbsp; Kaine may not have won, but it&rsquo;s clear that Trump lost:<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"550\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">All you need to know about the VP debate. <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/94Ah9QR3bm\">pic.twitter.com\/94Ah9QR3bm<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Zachary Fedell (@zatchry) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/zatchry\/status\/783517593382580224\">October 5, 2016<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p>And the bottom line take-home:<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"550\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">Pence is giving the country a very good preview of how the Republican Party is going to move beyond Trump. Just pretend he never happened.<\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Alec MacGillis (@AlecMacGillis) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/AlecMacGillis\/status\/783490449747091456\">October 5, 2016<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p>Here&rsquo;s a minute and a half video highlighting a few of Pence&rsquo;s prevarications:<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"695\" height=\"391\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/qZOWItkanDs?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>My conclusion?&nbsp; There&rsquo;s absolutely <strong><em>nothing<\/em><\/strong> Trump won&rsquo;t outsource.&nbsp; Not even his lying!<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.7thstep.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/10\/Trump_Pence_Debate-Corrections.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"trump_pence_debate-corrections\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-24101\" height=\"665\" src=\"https:\/\/www.7thstep.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/10\/Trump_Pence_Debate-Corrections.jpg\" width=\"640\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/10\/Trump_Pence_Debate-Corrections.jpg 640w, https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/10\/Trump_Pence_Debate-Corrections-144x150.jpg 144w, https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/10\/Trump_Pence_Debate-Corrections-289x300.jpg 289w, https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/10\/Trump_Pence_Debate-Corrections-24x24.jpg 24w, https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/10\/Trump_Pence_Debate-Corrections-36x36.jpg 36w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Whether you agree with the pundits who characterized this week&rsquo;s Vice-President Debate as the &ldquo;Thrilla in Vanilla&rdquo; featuring bland-to-bland combat or not, it&rsquo;s the only time (thank God!) we&rsquo;ll have to put up with Pence&rsquo;s pitiful prevarications on primetime TV.&nbsp; (Whatever else you may think of Pence, you&rsquo;ve got to hand it to him &ndash; <a href='https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/2016\/10\/07\/friday-fun-recap-of-vp-debate-via-tweets\/' class='excerpt-more'>[&#8230;]<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":6,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[5],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-24098","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-politics","category-5-id","post-seq-1","post-parity-odd","meta-position-corners","fix"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/24098","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/6"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=24098"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/24098\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=24098"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=24098"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=24098"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}