{"id":1187,"date":"2010-04-17T03:31:13","date_gmt":"2010-04-17T10:31:13","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/?p=1187"},"modified":"2010-04-17T03:31:13","modified_gmt":"2010-04-17T10:31:13","slug":"bushgop-regime-lied-about-torture-cover-up","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/2010\/04\/17\/bushgop-regime-lied-about-torture-cover-up\/","title":{"rendered":"Bush\/GOP Regime Lied About Torture Cover-up"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><font color=\"#0000ff\">They told us the illegal tapes were destroyed only because the tapes were no longer needed.&#160; They lied.<\/font><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p style=\"margin: 0in; font-family: verdana; font-size: 8.25pt\"><span style=\"color: #242424\"><font size=\"3\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.7thstep.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/04\/UStorture.jpg\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border-right-width: 0px; margin: 2px 0px 5px 10px; display: inline; border-top-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px\" title=\"US torture\" border=\"0\" alt=\"US torture\" align=\"right\" src=\"https:\/\/www.7thstep.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/04\/UStorture_thumb.jpg\" width=\"204\" height=\"272\" \/><\/a> Another <\/font><\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/www.aclu.org\/national-security\/torture-foia-torture-documents-released-4152010\" target=\"_blank\"><font size=\"3\">document release<\/font><\/a><span style=\"color: #242424\"><font size=\"3\"> sheds some light into the <\/font><\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2010\/04\/16\/us\/16tapes.html?src=twt&amp;twt=nytimes&amp;pagewanted=print\" target=\"_blank\"><font size=\"3\">the 2005 destruction of tapes<\/font><\/a><span style=\"color: #242424\"><font size=\"3\"> showing the torture of two detainees.<\/font><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0in 0.375in; font-family: verdana; color: #222222; font-size: 8.25pt\"><font size=\"3\"><strong>Porter J. Goss, the former director of the Central Intelligence Agency, in 2005 approved of the decision by one of his top aides to destroy dozens of videotapes documenting the brutal interrogation of two detainees<\/strong>, according to an internal C.I.A. document released Thursday.<\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0in 0.375in; font-family: verdana; color: #222222; font-size: 8.25pt\"><font size=\"3\">Shortly after the tapes were <strong>destroyed at the order of Jose A. Rodriguez Jr., then the head of the C.I.A.\u2019s clandestine service<\/strong>, Mr. Goss told Mr. Rodriguez that he &quot;agreed&quot; with the decision, according to the document. He even joked after Mr. Rodriguez offered to &quot;take the heat&quot; for destroying the tapes.<\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0in 0.375in; font-family: verdana; color: #222222; font-size: 8.25pt\"><font size=\"3\">&quot;PG laughed and said that actually, it would be he, PG, who would take the heat,&quot; according to one document, an internal C.I.A. e-mail message.<\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0in 0.375in; font-family: verdana; color: #222222; font-size: 8.25pt\"><font size=\"3\">According to current and former intelligence officials, Mr. Goss did not approve the destruction before it happened, and was displeased that Mr. Rodriguez did not consult him or the C.I.A.\u2019s top lawyer before giving the order for the tapes to be destroyed. <\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0in; font-family: verdana; font-size: 8.25pt\"><span style=\"color: #242424\"><font size=\"3\">Which is in contrast to statements by officials at the time. First, from then <\/font><\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/www.msnbc.msn.com\/id\/22134870\/\" target=\"_blank\"><font size=\"3\">CIA Director Hayden<\/font><\/a><span style=\"color: #242424\"><font size=\"3\"> after the news broke in 2007:<\/font><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0in 0.375in; font-family: verdana; color: #222222; font-size: 8.25pt\"><font size=\"3\">I understand that the Agency did so only after it was determined they were no longer of intelligence value and not relevant to any internal, legislative, or judicial inquiries &#8212; including the trial of Zacarias Moussaoui. The decision to destroy the tapes was made with CIA itself &#8230; and the absence of any legal or internal reason to keep them, the tapes posed a serious security risk. <\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0in; font-family: verdana; font-size: 8.25pt\"><span style=\"color: #242424\"><font size=\"3\">And from the <\/font><\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov\/news\/releases\/2007\/12\/20071207-2.html\" target=\"_blank\"><font size=\"3\">White House<\/font><\/a><span style=\"color: #242424\"><font size=\"3\"> after the news broke in 2007:<\/font><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0in 0.375in; font-family: verdana; color: #222222; font-size: 8.25pt\"><font size=\"3\">General Hayden made a statement yesterday to his employees in which he said that the decision was made by the agency, it was made in consultation with the agency&#8217;s lawyers. <\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0in; font-family: verdana; color: #242424; font-size: 8.25pt\"><font size=\"3\">Now, apparently, according to CIA officials, &quot;Mr. Rodriguez did not consult him or the C.I.A.&#8217;s top lawyer [or Goss] before giving the order for the tapes to be destroyed.&quot;<\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0in; font-family: verdana; font-size: 8.25pt\"><span style=\"color: #242424\"><font size=\"3\"><strong>The destruction of these tapes, <\/strong><\/font><\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/www.salon.com\/news\/opinion\/glenn_greenwald\/2010\/04\/16\/prosecutions\/index.html\"><font size=\"3\"><strong>Glenn<\/strong><\/font><\/a><span style=\"color: #242424\"><font size=\"3\"><strong> points out, was <\/strong><\/font><\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/www.salon.com\/news\/opinion\/glenn_greenwald\/2008\/01\/02\/obstruction\/print.html\" target=\"_blank\"><font size=\"3\"><strong>called obstruction of justice<\/strong><\/font><\/a><span style=\"color: #242424\"><font size=\"3\"><strong> by the 9\/11 Commission<\/strong>. An obstruction that covered up the illegal torture of these two detainees. And, an obstruction that is apparently one of those things that the current administration isn&#8217;t interested in looking back at\u2026 [<em>emphasis added<\/em>]<\/font><\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p style=\"margin: 0in; font-family: calibri; font-size: 11pt\">&#160;<\/p>\n<p>Inserted from &lt;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.dailykos.com\/storyonly\/2010\/4\/16\/857936\/-Torture-Tapes-Destruction-and-Looking-Backward\" target=\"_blank\">Daily Kos<\/a>&gt;<\/p>\n<p><font color=\"#0000ff\">At the time, Rodriguez was the DDO, the number two man under Goss.&#160; We still have not been given the whole truth.&#160; Interrogation tapes are never destroyed, because they are no longer useful.&#160; They are a valuable asset, because they can be used as references to answer future questions about interrogation technique.&#160; They were not a security risk, because they would have been hidden away more securely than <em>Faux Noise<\/em> hides truth.&#160; There is only one possible explanation here.&#160; With approval from the top (Bush and Cheney) they exceeded even the guidelines infamous torture memos.&#160; Until the GOP leaders who authorized this and other war crimes, there can be no healing.&#160; Torture is not who we as Americans are.&#160; To cleanse ourselves from this stain, we need Nuremburg in America.<\/font><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>They told us the illegal tapes were destroyed only because the tapes were no longer needed.&#160; They lied. Another document release sheds some light into the the 2005 destruction of tapes showing the torture of two detainees. Porter J. Goss, the former director of the Central Intelligence Agency, in 2005 approved of the decision by <a href='https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/2010\/04\/17\/bushgop-regime-lied-about-torture-cover-up\/' class='excerpt-more'>[&#8230;]<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[47],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1187","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-religion","category-47-id","post-seq-1","post-parity-odd","meta-position-corners","fix"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1187","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1187"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1187\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1187"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1187"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.politicsplus.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1187"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}