Dec 072012
 

I’m rushing today to finish before it’s time to leave for my volunteer day in prison.  I’m current witrh replies, albeit briefly.  I will returned late having missed sleep, so tomorrow I shall post an Open Thread at most.

Jig Zone Puzzle:

Today’s took me 3:10 (average 4:27).  To do it, click here.  How did you do?

Religious Ecstasy:

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Short Takes:

From MoveOn: What If Everyone Saw This Message From Robert Redford?

 

While Keystone XL would bring a few (very few) jobs, the environmental risk is far too great, especially since it does NOTHING for US energy security. It’s not earmarked for our use, so once it reaches the Gulf, it becomes the same as any other oil, except dirtier.

From NY Times: At House Speaker John A. Boehner’s request, Senate leaders and Representative Nancy Pelosi have been excluded from talks to avert a fiscal crisis, leaving it to Mr. Boehner and President Obama alone to find a deal, Congressional aides say.

Assuming that Agent Orange bargains in good faith, an overly generous assumption at best, I have little doubt that he will be Teabuggered, if he presents an acceptable deal to the House.

From MSNBC: Louie Gohmert (R-TX) stands alone on ‘lunatic’.

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In this rare instance I have to agree with Gohmert. As long as he is in office, the word ‘lunatic’ is needed to describe him.

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  25 Responses to “Open Thread–12/7/2012”

  1. s that figure right about 65 million people died during the course of World War II…?? 

    I do not remember that the number being and was so high for human carnage… 

    What a waste of human lives during that time… 

    I do wonder what the world would be like if USA had NOT won WW II… 

    Any comments… 
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    • Jim, this is from Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WWII
       

       It was the most widespread war in history, with more than 100 million people serving in military units. In a state of "total war", the major participants placed their entire economic, industrial, and scientific capabilities at the service of the war effort, erasing the distinction between civilian and military resources. Marked by significant events involving the mass death of civilians, including the Holocaust and the only use of nuclear weapons in warfare, it resulted in 50 million to over 70 million fatalities. These deaths make World War II by far the deadliest conflict in all of human history.

      As to what would have happened had the Allies not won the war, I shutter to think.  This was not a US win but an Allied win, but I know you didn't mean any disrespect to the other allied combatants. 

    • If the allies had lost, Hitler would have done to Europe what Republicans will do to the US, if they can.

  2. Republicans will again praise the military feats, but continue to destroy the society the WW II generation built.
     

  3. 3:41  Not even close.  TomCat had me for lunch.

  4. Puzzle — 3:07 Just by a whisker!  Now will Patty have us all for lunch?
     
    MoveOn — I remember seeing this video very early this year and I agree whole heartedly.  Right now, there are big bucks being spent on advertising for the Enbridge Northern Gateway tar sands route — I hear them daily.  They are advertising the safety of the sea route out from Kitimat to the open ocean — 2 dedicated tugs that will guide every ship, and coastal pilots that will board every tanker to guide it in and out.  Just the fact that Gill Island, sight of the grounding of a BC Ferry Corp ship, is right there certainly gives me no peace.  And the First Nations people, the ones that rescued all but 2 people from the ferry disaster, are not in favour of this route.  This is their traditional area for fishing etc.  Once the ships are on the open ocean, they will head west to China and be subject to heavy seas and possible break ups mid ocean, or head down the coast to terminals in the US, to be piped to the Gulf Coast, refined, and then shipped to overseas markets where the oil companies can get better prices than in the US.  When it comes to managing such risks, we are infants.  The oil companies cannot be aloud to screw with the planet.  There are already enough previous mishaps to tell us that the companies are irresponsible — North Sea, Niger Delta, Gulf Coast, and the Exxon Valdez (which by comparison is small).  And each of these was NOT bitumen which is much harder to clean up because it sinks to the ocean floor.  No to Keystone!  No to tar sands!  No to Northern Gateway! 
     
    NY Times — I doubt that Agent Orange and Mr Obama will come to an agreement.  If by some chance they do, I agree TC, Boehner will get Teabuggered.  The Republican/Teabaggers are such a bunch of misanthropes!
     
    MSNBC — And this is what the Congress is spending Americans' hard earned money on?  It's not just Gomert that is a lunatic, it is the whole damn bunch of them!  There is a fiscal "speed bump" to deal with and the lunatics think the word "lunatic" should have priority?!?
     
    Cartoon — I was just thinking of this yesterday when I realised it was 06/12/12.  Wasn't it FDR that referred to 07/12/41 as "a date that shall live in infamy"?  And the US declared war on Japan 08/12/41 and shortly thereafter, entered the war in Europe.  And despite all the deaths that total between 50 and 70 million, humans still haven't learned to get along.  ARRRRGGHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!

    • She did.

      Amen to everything you said!

      WND is already circulating a petition to kick Agent Orange from the Speaker's job.

      Not really.  They think vacation should have higher priority.

      You're right.  After the US declared war on Japan, Hitler declared war on the US.

  5. MoveOn ~ The pipeline would be a total waste. It would ruin the environment and create less than 200 jobs despite all the lies the bought bitches would like to sell us.
     
    NY Times ~ President Obama should make sure the White HOuse is well stocked with Merlot for these talks with the Bonehead.
     
    MSNBC ~ Is Louie's picture next to the word "lunatic" in the dictionary?
     
    Cartoon ~ This is a "day which will live in infamy", just as FDR stated when he asked Ciongress to declare war on Japan in response to the attack.
     
    On a lighter note, today is also the anniversary of when I moved into my home which I bought in October 1997. It was a happy day for me because there was so much work for me to do before I could move into it.

  6. MoveOn ~ The pipeline would be a total waste. It would ruin the environment and create less than 200 jobs despite all the lies the bought bitches would like to sell us.
     
    NY Times ~ President Obama should make sure the White HOuse is well stocked with Merlot for these talks with the Bonehead.
     
    MSNBC ~ Is Louie's picture next to the word "lunatic" in the dictionary?
     
    Cartoon ~ This is a "day which will live in infamy", just as FDR stated when he asked Congress to declare war on Japan in response to the attack
     
    On a lighter note, today is also the anniversary of when I moved into my home which I bought in October 1997. It was a happy day for me because there was so much work for me to do before I could move into it.

  7.  
    Thanks to Lynn Squance for clarifying the history of WW II for me as to how many people died during that time.
    WW II "resulted in 50 million to over 70 million fatalities. These deaths make World War II by far the deadliest conflict in all of human history.""
     
    There was no disrespect on my part regarding the Allies of WW II. Completely slipped my mind.
     
    Yes, you are correct in that the only time Atomic Bombs, two of them, were ever used in the mass destruction
    of peoples all at once on two separate occasions. It did bring about the end of the Pacific Front much sooner.  Some historians have said that many lives, on both sides, were saved by the use of those 2 atomic bombs.
     
    The nuclear weapons that some countries have today are enormous, much more destructive than the 
    two which were used in WW II combined by 50 times (estimated).
     
    Yes, we all shudder to think what might be if the Allies had lost WW II…
     
    And we all shudder to think what would happen if just one of those "enormous" nuclear bombs were to ever be dropped…
     
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    • Thanks Jim.

      Many others, myself included, think that Japan was ready to surrender, because they were negotiating to do so, requesting only that the Emperor be allowed to remain on his throne, a request that we granted.  Truman wanted to demonstrate our power to the USSR.

  8. I am just plain proud of nyself at 5:47, best I have ever done!!

  9. 12/7/2012

    Anniversary 71 of Pearl Harbor…

  10. In this rare instance I have to agree with Gohmert. As long as he is in office, the word ‘lunatic’ is needed to describe him.

    Gohmert is Nucking Futs… :smile:

  11. While Keystone XL would bring a few (very few) jobs, the environmental risk is far too great, especially since it does NOTHING for US energy security.

    Robert Redford is correct and we must use clean energy….