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Discussing politics with Republicans can be highly frustrating.  Unless they have made the effort to inform themselves from multiple independent sources, their version of facts is not the same as mine, removing any common ground for discussion.  Most have not, and most of those who have aren’t Republicans anymore.  The reason is that Fox, the Republican Ministry of Propaganda, invents facts to support their positions, much like war criminals Bush, Cheney invented facts to “fix the intelligence around the policy”.  But some of tha facts that Republicans believe are so outlandish that one mist question the sanity of anyone who believes them.

Ray Edroso wrote an excellent piece addressing ten of these Republican “facts”.

republican-liesAs you may have noticed by following their writings, conservatives are not sticklers for historical accuracy, especially when they have a point to defend and not a lot of evidence to support it…

…I’ve picked out 10 such ideas that are widespread enough to qualify. (In the nomenclature I have treated "Republican" and "conservative" as synonyms because, come on.)

10. The Robber Barons weren’t robbers — they were capitalist heroes.

The overarching task of the conservative historian is to rehabilitate the image of capitalism, even at its most red-toothed and -clawed. Not a hard job, as both our history and culture ceaselessly celebrate the innovative dynamism of American business.

But one of the rare areas in which history teachers are allowed to criticize unfettered capitalism is the Gilded Age of the "robber barons" — Morgan, Rockefeller, Carnegie, Fisk, et al. These men, many of whom first rose to prominence through unseemly wartime speculation, built enormous fortunes on the exceedingly generous terms of the times, which included bribery, monopolies, and stock manipulation, perverting the alleged power of the free market on their own behalf. They were kind of like the Goldman Sachs and Lehman Brothers of their day — except they never got caught.

Most of us still look on this as a shameful thing. But historians of the conservative-libertarian persuasion such as Thomas E. Woods [propaganda delinked], Lawrence W. Reed [propaganda delinked], and Thomas J. DiLorenzo [propaganda delinked]  (better known now as a neo-Confederate [racist pigs delinked]) look at the robber barons’ dirty records and ask: So what? J.P. Morgan built a nice library!

They tend to skirt the smelly stuff, and talk instead about how Carnegie’s machinations drove down the price of steel — surely you’re not against low prices? And if Jay Gould and Cornelius Vanderbilt paid off legislators to acquire land for their railroads, the railroads got built, and that’s what counts.

Why do they so eagerly defend the robber barons even at their worst? Maybe because, as economist Brad DeLong has noted, the grotesque inequity in American wealth that characterized their era has only one equivalent in U.S. history — that of our own time. And if one’s business is excusing the perfidy and criminality of today’s speculators and swindlers, it is helpful to make heroes of the speculators and swindlers who are their models.

9. Sputnik bankrupted the Soviet Union.

palinThis one comes from the top of the conservative food chain: Sarah Palin [Fox delinked]. In her Fox News rebuttal to President Obama’s recent State of the Union, Palin said that the Russians’ "victory in that race to space… incurred so much debt at the time that it resulted in the inevitable collapse of the Soviet Union."

It has been pointed out that Palin’s version of history is confused on many points. But don’t tell that to conservatives. Among them, Palin’s charisma is so overweening that her bizarre POV is yet defended — in some cases, on the grounds that her "larger and more important point about history" [propaganda delinked] was misunderstood (which then mutated into "Palin was right"), and in others just because, as a poster at Lucianne Goldberg’s site [rabid right delinked] put it, "The left will have puppies because of it."… [emphasis added]

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Now, I just gave you two of the least ridiculous Republican lies.  I strongly encourage you to click through and read the original.

The big problem is that they are spreading the propaganda to those who don’t check for themselves.  We have our work cut out for us spreading authentic facts.

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  10 Responses to “Republicans Invent Their Own Facts”

  1. The lie has long since lost its honest function of misrepresenting reality. Nobody believes anybody, everyone is in the know. Lies are told only to convey to someone that one has no need either of him or his good opinion.”

    Theodor W. Adorno quotes (German philosopher, 1903-1969)“

    A lie does not consist in the indirect position of words, but in the desire and intention, by false speaking, to deceive and injure your neighbour.”
    warpoet

    Jonathan Swift quotes (Irish Author and Satirist of prose, 1667-1745)

    I can’t do better 🙂 PS

  2. Fox Insider Admits: They Just Make $h!t Up

    Indeed, a former Fox News employee who recently agreed to talk with Media Matters confirmed what critics have been saying for years about Murdoch’s cable channel. Namely, that Fox News is run as a purely partisan operation, virtually every news story is actively spun by the staff, its primary goal is to prop up Republicans and knock down Democrats, and that staffers at Fox News routinely operate without the slightest regard for fairness or fact checking.

    “It is their M.O. to undermine the administration and to undermine Democrats,” says the source. “They’re a propaganda outfit but they call themselves news.”

    And that’s the word from inside Fox News.

    Source:
    Well, originally posted by Media Matters, but the Diary covering that story adds more details (plus it links to the Media Matters story) so …
    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/2/10/942670/-A-Foxer-Finally-Admits:-They-Just-Make-#*It-Up!

    • I saw this when it came out. What boggles me is that none of the competition of the Republican Reichsministry of Propaganda aired this.

  3. You are exactly right that we have our work cut out for us, and thank you for running this. Today’s corporatist conservative Republicans, egged on by Fox “News”, will say or do anything to bolster their ridiculous claims, and there are a lot of lazy IDIOTS out there who are too lazy or stupid to fact check on their own. That is why we must continually be vigilant and expose every lie as it occurs!

    • Jack, in addition we have to keep exposing the lies long afterwords, because Republicans keep repeating them. For example, Rumsfeld recently said that Saddam was making WMD when we invaded.

  4. Republicans make up their own facts. The shocker is this is really news to the uninformed masses. And they will never know the truth, even when fascism creeps into their own little world. They will blame liberals, anyway.

  5. If that bubble head would pull her head out of her ass for more than a minute she would be kind of right, in building STARWARS technology which almost bankrupted the USA the Soviets did go bankrupt trying to keep up. They wound up spending almost 60% of their GDP on defense during the Reagan years…remember the lines in the old USSR for a loaf of bread because they could not grow enough or afford to import wheat? Yeah ol Ronnie was a freeking hero all right. He is the one who led the financial sector to the door then he opened it for them.

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